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in reply to: Season's Greetings from Warren's Hollow #59560
Merry Christmas to all the Tradbow Gang and thanks for the help and entertainment.
in reply to: Too old to hunt? #48588Seems to me there’s a lot of old f__ts out there. I started shooting recurves about 45 years ago and have never wanted to shoot anything else except a couple of longbows I’ve recently aquired. I expect that is where most of you come from. After an injury, I stopped shooting for about 15-20 years because I just couldn’t take the sholder pain. Now that I’ve retired, I’m back into traditional bowhunting, with lighter bows to ease the pain but I think the real thing that’s keeping me feeling young is BOWHUNTING itself. I try to get to the gym three times a week but I think for the most part, age is all attitude.
in reply to: Advice on Serving #46885Still on serving, I ordered Flemish strings from 3 Rivers and although I really like the strings, (after they finished stretching) I have to wax the tag ends of the loops every time I string the bows. Has anyone ever tried serving over the tag ends (say with dental floss) to hold them in place?
in reply to: Arrow quivers while hunting #19672Never having used a traditional back quiver, (I use a GFA with the fletching pointing down the back of my right leg)seems to me that ‘back in the day’ nobody used back quivers since they didn’t want their patiently sharped broadheads rubbing together and getting dull.
in reply to: Any other Bear Archery enthusiasts here? #33450About 35 years ago I purchased a used 64″ bear takedown (‘B’ riser) and two sets of limbs for $70 as back-up for my magnesium riser takedown. The riser had been spray painted a flat green and not being smart enough to recognize the value of the bow, I sanded off the paint right past the original finish and refinished the riser. It looks great but now I have no numbers or marks to identify the make or model. Can anyone tell me if there is another way to identify the riser?
in reply to: whats everyone favorite BOW ? #12407I’m still in love with my Grable HST @ 74Lbs. (Wish I could still shoot it.) I painted it all flat black and with the 18″ hunting stabilizer it looks like it should belong to Darth Vader. It wasn’t the fastest but it was smooth, smooth, smooth with the full working recurves. I really miss that bow.
in reply to: Broadhead of choice let's hear it #52892Anybody know where I can get a bucket full of the old green Bear Razorheads?
in reply to: Broadhead of choice let's hear it #22028I vote for the Zwickeys, but I like the 4 blade deltas (eskimos a close second) because I believe the cut-cross incision is less likely to clog up on the exit hole leaving a better blood trail than a single blade cut. I bought some new magnus snuffers that I haven’t had an opertunity to try yet but I used to be a big fan of the old 200 grain Rothar Snuffers. In those days I was shooting a much heavier bow.
in reply to: No Gloves and hunting #60134I just recently strung up one of my old recurves to see if I could find a use for all the 2020 shafts I’ve ended up with after switching to the 2117’s and took it out to our range. The 2020’s flew beautifully but the bare string issued a very loud “poinnnnngggg” on release. I’m sure any deer would be heading for the tall timber long before the arrow got there. And without the brush buttons, even at our range I was always hung up in the bush. I can’t imagine shooting without brush buttons or twang dampeners.
Twenty-five years ago when I was actively hunting I used to practice with a glove (one over-two under) and then when I went hunting (big game) I would shoot bare fingers for a smooth release as I never planned on making more than one shot a day. When there was game in front of me I never felt the string/pain on my fingers and my release/accuracy were always good.
in reply to: Arrow Spine #55000Well I think I’m finally there. I’ve been playing with arrow spine, length, head weight and left or right wing fletching for about 6 months now. And I think I’m now happy with my arrow performance. I started out trying to maintain a “rule of thumb” of 10-12 grains of arrow weight for every pound of bow weight. With my 60 lb. Robertson (and I draw about 60 lbs. worth) I should be shooting between 600 & 720 grains for total arrow weight with a high EFOC. I think I’ve thrown the rule of thumb in the ditch but I’m going to be able to maintain the high EFOC.
I really wanted to be able to shoot 2020’s with a 175-grain head (610 grains total arrow weight). It turned out the 2020’s were too light unless I went down to a 125 grain head (566 grains total arrow weight). That brought my EFOC from 15.52% that I was happy with down to 11.11% that I was not happy with. I am able to shoot my old 2219’s (628 grains & 13.68%) but they are a little slow and I would like a higher EFOC.
I took “Fletcher’s” advice (something that was previously suggested by Michael) and tried the 175-grain points in my 2117”s. What a difference. I have no problems with arrow flight even when there is some operator error involved and I’m getting an EFOC of 16.81%. My only concern is that the total arrow weight is only 566 grains (same as lightened 2020’s) so I feel I’ve made some considerable progress there even with the lighter shaft.
And, Bert, you were right about the ‘step’ on the side plate – no more shredded fletching.
Most importantly I feel confident about my shooting and arrow flight.
Thanks very much for all the help guys.
in reply to: Arrow Spine #26955Thanks for all the help guys. I’ve ordered another half-dozen 2020s that I’m going to tune to. I’ve also orderd a left wing clamp and a bunch of fletching for my Bitz and some 180 grain field points. I’ll try the 180s and left wing helical (I was shooting right wing)on my 2219s and if that doesn’t work then I’ll go with the 2020s, left wing. I’ve got lots to tinker with – half the fun. I’ll keep you posted.
in reply to: Arrow Spine #60233OK you longbow shooters. I’ve been all through the tuning routine using the Adcock system followed up by shooting through paper at 6 feet just to confirm my findings – nice round hole with a bare shaft. I ended up with 2219s at 628 grains and 15% FOC. (2020s flew nicely as well but I have a bunch of 2219s and deltas to go with them.) A couple of evenings out at our club’s indoor range and my fletchings are showing wear even though I’ve rotated the nocks to give me the best clearance. As I am new to longbow shooting, is this a common occurance? Am I going to be refletching my arrows every few months? I’m used to tuning the bow to the arrows, not the arrows to the bow.
in reply to: Longbow Strings #20310OK so I ordered the new strings from the bow manufacturer and the strings that arrived were from another supplier. I assume the bowyer outsources his strings. The bowyer suggests a brace height of 6 1/2 to 7″ for the particular bow. After shooting a dozen or so arrows with the new string the brace height was down to about 6″. I put several twists in the string to get it back up to 6 5/8″ and the bow shoots fine but I don’t think the string is finished stretching and there is more hand shock than with the old string. (Same number of strands.) I expect I will need to put several more twists on the string before it’s totally shot in. My concern is just how many twists in a bow string is too many? Will a string with a great many twists wear quickly?
in reply to: Heavy Bows – Are they now a part of our past #55367I’ve just got back into traditional bowhunting after 25 years. I quit because I shot heavy bows (81 & 74 lb. recurves) and wrecked my shoulder. The muscles got stronger than the ligaments and I tore everything apart. I missed bowhunting desparately so just a few months ago I bought a 60 lb. longbow and tried to shoot it. It seemed I was good for about one arrow per target at our local range and now I’m able to shoot regularly without hurting myself. I would dearly love to shoot my heavy bows again (a macho thing I’m sure) but I realize that it really isn’t necessary in order to humainly harvest big game. I love my 60 lb. longbow. My 635 grain arrows are plenty fast enough and the workout is the best thing I have been able to do for my shoulder.
in reply to: Have you ever considered a longbow ?? #19309Wow! Interesting discussions. I thought I remembered reading in one of Howard Hill’s books that he stuck with shooting a long bow because he felt shooting a recurve was too complicated. That comment made many years ago was one of the prime reasons I’m trying the longbow now after shooting nothing but recurves in my previous bowhunting career.
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