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in reply to: Need a new hunting recurve any suggestions? #54739
Don’t mean to put words in his mouth, but I think Dave P. above meant to say of the Little Favorite Shrew, “a short recurve that shoots better than most long recurves (rather than “longbows”) — since the LF is a recurve and that was the original question: suggest some good hunting recurves.
in reply to: Elkheart and the Indian Guide #54729Very well written, I agree. Better yet, the author, Thomas Downing, posts here regularly — he’s one of us — and I believe this was his first magazine article ever (it’s in in the last issue of TBM). Good work, Mr. Downing! Let’s see some more of the same.
in reply to: First group EVER with wood arrows #44727Yes, “satisfying” is as good a word as any to describe it. “Organic” is another. So, while into semantics, we don’t even need to mention that two arrows is a “pair,” not a “group.” I am clearly jealous.
in reply to: A Question of Draw Weight #20439Bowyers comment on how in the last decade or so, draw weights ordered by shooters have been falling, on average from low 60s to mid or low 50s. As an older archer this has been the case for me. All my bows now range from low to mid 50s. That’s why Ashby’s research on arrow systems is all the more important, since the lower poundage we shoot, the more important the arrow part of the bargain becomes.
in reply to: Scent from walking through areas #20436Good post and good question. I mostly hunt elk. When I’m hunting big public lands and not focusing on any particular spot day after day, like a wallow, I don’t worry much about residual scent except around any place I am setting up to ambush. But if I’m using the same area over and over, I have for many years seen elk just quit coming there after a couple of days — animals I’ve not busted or knowingly spooked. I’ve always thought that rather than boots, the biggest scent we leave behind is from our hands touching stuff as we move along — move that piece of limb or brush out of the way, or lean on that tree going down a hill. So I work hard to keep my hands to myself. So far as boots I have only one very memorable experience when I was wearing GoreTex type nylon boots and walked a few feet on an elk trail while crossing then had a whole herd spook, panic and thunder away a couple of hours later at exactly that spot in the trail. Since then I’ve worn Bean hunting shoes (boots but they call them shoes) or in colder weather Schnees. If I were hunting from one or a few treestands, I’d sure wear rubber boots and try not to touch anything. Moose, as you mentioned, don’t seem to care much about anything.
in reply to: Spot and Stalk Black Bear Tips Please #15855Bears are relatively easy to get up on, esp. if they’re occupied with a feeding frenzy. Only hard rule, of course, is to stay downwind. Nothing like a berry-fattened blackbear. I have AK friends who cherish them for their grease/lard, which can actually have a blue caste to it and makes the best pastries. If you get stuck with no cover to close the deal, you might try a predator call, but not with a grizzly. And last I heard, in Ak and Yukon blackies are responsible for more human attacks than grizzlies. They seem to have adpated in a significantly different way that forest blackbears. Enjoy.
in reply to: 2 Blade double bevel and 3 blade vs single bevel #10036I have read all the TBM Ashby articles and most of his research in the library here, and the way I recall it is that, as Michael and others say here, single bevel and feather twist matching is important for penetration, but has no notable influence on flight since the feathers greatly overcome those little broadhead edges as wind planes. However, Ed cautions against miss-matching as it can actually decrease penetration, whereas the whole idea behind single-bevel heads is to enhance penetration. This, in addition to sharpening challenges, was long a problem with the Grizzly single-bevels which came only in right-bevel while most feathers turn left. I now have some of the new El Grande 200 grains in left-bevel, which fly like A4’s, and which I plan to use for elk this year. Of course, several other broadhead makers are now offering right and left bevel aside from Grizzly. There’s simply no point in miss-matching. bloodless (not really)
in reply to: Muck Boots? #64045Ralph — is this a brand name, or are you referring to the common pull-on high rubber boots called variously milking boots, break-up boots, clamming boots, etc.? If the latter, I can attest that they aren’t warm (unlined) and not at all comfy for long hikes. If it’s a brand name, sorry I can’t help. Like others here, I long ago settled on L.L. Bean’s “Main Hunting Shoe” for all my hunting and hunting-related hiking. More power to you for walking away from the motors! bloodless (not really)
Lee C — I agree with you and all before. And in my opinion, when they accuse you or us of being “elitist,” they are admitting that they are slobs and think that is the proper way for hunters to be. If I must be called an elitist by slobs, in order to be the only sort of hunter I want to look at in the mirror each morning … bring it on! The basically iniveral agreement throughout this long thread that “hunting” as portrayed on almost all TV — what someone here calls “outhouse channels” — that this sort of thing sucks … well guys I feel I’ve found a home here. We are not a minority if only we speak out rather than remaining silent. You make me proud to be a traditional bowhunter. I thank you, Bloodless (not really)
in reply to: 2 Blade double bevel and 3 blade vs single bevel #29626Marine — all you say makes good sense to me. But what I get from reading the Ashby research is that he is not saying we need this or that for deer, except on rare occasion such as the scapula joint hit you refer to. In such an event it could make all the difference. However, move up to really big tough critters like elk and it’s a different story. In sum, if you’re getting good penetration and consistent recovery on deer with whatever head you prefer to shoot, then you have no motivation to change (except that heavier heads absolutely provide more accurate flight). But if you’re not getting good penetration and losing animals, there’s a weak spot in your system and it’s likely the arrow set-up. But move up to big-big game and I think we’re wise to follow what Ashby’s years of research and lots of individual hunters posting on this site tell us works best — heavy two-blade single-bevel heads with steel hard enough the tip won’t curl or break. Like the ABS ad says, in bowhunting there’s no such thing as overkill. My2cents
in reply to: Turbulators #29620Thanks, Steve, for reminding us of this easy experiment we can all try for ourselves — a refreshing break from the “which shaft material is best?” discussions. I have a few questions I guess I’ll have to answer for myself, but maybe you, or another member, already knows.
First, I’d think duct tape would be thick enough that it would tend to curl up on the front edge after enough shots, thus snagging a bit as it passes over the arrow shelf. Cresting tape, which is made to apply to arrows, would provide a cleaner shelf pass-over, but is it thick enough to “turbolate” the air in flight? Even for FoC fanatics like me, I don’t reckon a tiny piece of tape is going to change shaft balance notably. Another fun thing to play with during practice, thanks.
in reply to: Ethics and hunting public land #19016WIcanner — I seem to be following you through these various threads and keep saying “yes!” to what you are saying. I see by your few posts that you are new here. Brother, this is the place for guys like you and me and so many others I could name. I predict you won’t get no chaff here from anyone who disagrees. And if anyone disagrees they will make a respectful argument for their views while respecting your views. That’s why so many of us love this website4 — because it doesn’t allow stupid rude insulting people, and the monitors, or moderators or whatever, are just like the rest of us and don’t toss us off if we disagree. Welcome and keep posting! bloodless
By golly WIcanner =-= you not only know your bow woods, but old bows too. Either you’re a archery historian or “no spring chicken” like me. Indian, like Wing and Bear and others, make me nostalgic because I couldn’t afford none of those when they were the best available (or at least the best the average teenager from the Great Plains was aware of). Sigh …
Absolutely! Yet not just a “waste of time.” It’s like slapping ourself, our self-dignity, in the face to watch this slime! I say boycott the sponsors AND tell them why. But then, seems that most of the products advertised on these ugly stupid tv shows wouldn’t sell to anyone but the poor innocent dumbheads who LIKE this idea of “hunting.” We need more hunters? Not these kinds, pleeze! Way too many out there already, messing everything up for everyon,e including especially their own gullible selfs. 👿
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