[Abel]

in reply to: Carbon vs. Hardwood #47933

ssumner1 wrote: I am seriously considering wood. It may very be purely for aesthetic purposes, but I think it will be the way to go, especially if we can use hard woods that can last quite a while to the beating of stumping.

When I was first runng the Red Balu’s I got from FW I broke 2, since then I haven’t busted a one. Really good tuff shafts

[Abel]

in reply to: Arrow weight #24071

Look at the FOC thread, lots of good stuff in there. I’m shooting a 55lb Samich Sage and I’m shooting over 800grns, like 135-140fps. Hardwoods that are about 20% FOC, they start dropping off hard after 30yds, but they still hit hard that far out.

[Abel]

in reply to: FOC/EFOC-Minimum? #24065

I don’t shoot carbon or AL anymore, but I did a good bit of playing with my woods and was able to get my hardwoods up to 20%, I don’t recall the exact grains overall. I looked for at least 650, I’m at 800ish now though with 300gr tuffheads up front. Shoot great and they hold up better than my Grizzly sticks did.

[Abel]

in reply to: Carbon vs. Hardwood #46851

Ya Doc, and I’ll be doing it all over again, hopefully in July with my new Bigfoot bow. GF and I drew pretty sweet goat tags here on the island, need new toy for that hunt 🙂

[Abel]

in reply to: Carbon vs. Hardwood #46554

Now these are unfletched bareshaft tuned

Red Balua 5/16″ shaft, 11/32″ foot. 65lb spine

@29.25″ AMO, 500gr

with knock and 300gn point I got 20%FOC

Mahogany 11/32″ tapered to 5/16″ 68lb spine

@29″ AMO Aprox 510gr

with Knock and 300grn point, 21%FOC

Now I just gotta go do some durability testing

[Abel]

in reply to: Carbon vs. Hardwood #42798

Kevin sent me a half dozen Red Balau. They are 11/32 footed and 5/16 shafts. They were spined at around 60#, I think they were in the 550 range for grains. They were easy to straighten and seal. In full length, with just slipping 300gr heads on them they had 20.7 EFOC. I hope to get to shooting some of them tonight to see how they perform. But I figure, as I cut them down to tune, the FOC should go up and the arrow get shorter.

[Abel]

in reply to: Spine weight increase for woods #17500

The straight’s shoot great.

[Abel]

in reply to: Spine weight increase for woods #12914

Here’s what I have right now. I do have some hardwoods from Forrester that I have to build up and will see how they do.

Tapered 70-75 Cedar shafts

30.25″

225 tuffhead

Don’t know total grns

FOC=20.7%

Straight Cedar 75-80 spine

29.5″

430grns

300gr tuffhead

730grs overall

FOC= 22%

All arrows fletched with 5 1/5″ shields.

I was able to get the tapered shafts to shoot the 300’s real well, but I haven’t checked FOC on them yet.

[Abel]

in reply to: Tuning and cutting Taper shafts? #54766

Thanks Doc, that’s how I’ve been doing it, but for some reason I had to make sure.

[Abel]

in reply to: Boots #52535

Patrick wrote: How about these guys, since they advertise in Traditional Bowhunter and are a BHA sponsor:

http://www.kenetrek.com/Kenetrek-Pac-Boots/products/1/

I don’t have the Pac boots, but the Kennetrek Mountain Extreme 400’s, awesome boots. It’s a waterproof leather boot that’s actually waterproof. They were my go to boot for everythign up here from my 10 day spike shunts for goats to day hunts for deer up here in AK. Now my main boot is a Scarpa Mount Blanc, but those are sheep and goat boots only, they make easy work of the mountains.

[Abel]

in reply to: Tapered Shaft Question #52507

I asked this to the couple of gentlemen who have turned shafts for me, they all have said that tapering will usually drop spine by 2-3lbs on average with your standard 10″ taper. Now, how about dynamic spine? With the taper, in theory the arrow should recover from paradox quicker correct? I know that the 70-75 spine cedar I has shoot better and recover quicker than my 80-85 spine parallel cedars shooting the same 300gr heads.

[Abel]

in reply to: Carbon vs. Hardwood #40530

I understand and remember that, and it seems funny that manufacturers haven’t beefed up the front ends of carbon. So basically, without modification to carbon shafts, hardwoods still tougher “out of the box”?

[Abel]

in reply to: Changing bow shelf?? #17377

Ya, that’s one thing I’m a little afraif of, but I’d like to get somethign I trust more that Cedar, although the couple I’ve broken were glancing shots off rocks with blunt tips. I’m looking at some of the stuff on Forresters page as well.

Pretty sure I’ll be loosing FOC big time and just getting massive gains in bone busting mass.

[Abel]

in reply to: List your FOC arrow information for wood,carbon & aluminum/REFERENCE 4 SELECTING NEW ARROWS #16552

Samich Sage 55lb Recurve

55lbs @ 28″, draw 28″ s well

Grizzly Sitck Alaskan

29″

78grn brass inserts

225gr Tuffheads with 75grn adapter=300grn points

760gr overall

FOC=25.8%

Tapered 70-75 Cedar shafts

30.25″

225 tuffhead

Don’t know total grns

FOC=20.7%

Straight Cedar 75-80 spine

29.5″

430grns

300gr tuffhead

730grs overall

FOC= 22%

All arrows fletched with 5 1/5″ shields.

Going to build a set of Tapered ASH with the 300’s here after Goat season is over. Any ideas on shaft spine for that setup? Thinking of staying with the 70-75’s, maybe adjust the shelf out some to be able to shoot the softer spine. Going to play with some tapered 70-75 cedar shafts here during Christmas break.

[Abel]

in reply to: FPS/Slugs and bones…. #55040

Ya, I ordered a couple of Grizzly sticks for testing. They’re building them to match the grains I’m throwing now so I don;t have to re-learn my shots. If they fly like I’m hoping, with 300 up front I’ll be at 730grains total and a 27% FOC.

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