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in reply to: Great nock set #44660
I like it. 8)
I’ve never hunted whitetails but with mulies, stalking is a good way to go. They wander over so much territory that it can be hard to pattern em, although I have done it. Elk are pretty easy to stalk if you get the chance but I usually catch them going to feed or water, undisturbed they are pretty easy to pattern.
in reply to: Fastest production recurve?? #9187I second the Border.
in reply to: helix broadheads #38266They’re a well made head, fly well, but the angle of the blade, about 40 degrees makes em tough to sharpen.
in reply to: Arrow Question #300505″ are 3.2 grs a piece. add a little glue and you may as well call it 10grs.
I’ve never hunted whities but love to hunt elk. They tend to ignore noise more than deer so you can get away with a little. But you have to beat the nose or its game over, period.
I have a ghillie bowhunters hat/hood, whatever you call it, and wear an asat 3d jacket, used to wear the asat 3d hood. If you hunt hot weather it is very cool, I’ve been known to hunt with the suit on over a pair of shorts. Any way, I had a cow elk one time stick her face right into mine so close I could have slapped her on the nose with my hand. Have had birds land on my shoulders and chipmunks crawl into my lap. They work.
in reply to: Please introduce yourselves, I'll start #62044Dan here. Been shooting bows since I was knee high to a tadpole. Started out with recurves and went to compounds for 8 years, then traditional for 12 years, then back to compound for the last 7 I think. Now I’m going back to traditional, if I can get up the nerve. I sure do enjoy shooting them more that’s for sure and shoot almost every day. Live out west and love to hunt elk! 😀 Deer hunting has turned into a side show.
in reply to: Ready to give FOC a try…Recommendations? #48750I usually pick mine up off ebay or this place
http://www.cdsarchery.com/Archery/arrows-Victory.html
they went up 7 bucks a dozen from last year. Good thing I have 2 dozen untouched shafts in my inventory 😀
You’ll get it together eventually, Brandon. Any questions along the way let me know.
Dan
in reply to: Couple Newbie Questions #45342SonOtheSouth wrote: Thanks for the info ! The ILF system sounds perfect.
Just curious… why would it be best to go with a sage first ? You’re not the first one to advise the same… wouldn’t it be best to just get a good bow ?
I said that because what if you decide this archery thing isn’t for you? With the Sage you won’t loose much. On the other hand, if you’ve made up your mind up for sure… go ilf and never look back. 😀
in reply to: Couple Newbie Questions #45225First of all… Welcome!
As far as the bow goes, I would go ILF which is short for International Limb Fitting. ILF allows you to use limbs from any manufacturer that makes ilf limbs. You can get basic limbs to start for around 120 bucks and as time goes on, if you want, move on to static limbs, which is a high performance limb, foam cores, even longbow limbs or what have ya. You are not limited to the limbs that are offered by that manufacturer, every ilf limb will fit. I love the system myself.
The trick is though is to find a riser that you really like, that feels good in the hand and allows you to reproduce the same hold every time. I have a TradTech Black Oynx, love it, it is definitely the riser for me. Lancaster Archery offers this riser and many others
http://www.lancasterarchery.com/bows/ilf-traditional-bows/ilf-take-down-risers.html
and I think they still have a test drive program. Here is a limb selection
http://www.lancasterarchery.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=ilf+limbs&x=0&y=0
there is a set of limbs there for 119.00.
However, not meant to confuse you but sometimes its best to go with something like the Samick Sage. A 130 dollar bow and get your feet wet first.
in reply to: Ready to give FOC a try…Recommendations? #44074Brandon,
Victory VForce HV, I use V6 in 300 spine. These shafts are pretty light so they’re not quite as tough as as the XT’s. But I have found that if you use 100gr inserts, you’ll have to any way, it toughens em up immensely. Same story when you do that as the xt’s and 50gr inserts, the head breaks before the shaft usually does… well at least Concordes do. Yesterday I busted 1/4″ of tip off an Abowyer Brown Bear, arrow is fine. 😯
Full length, 31″, 100 gr insert and 225gr head gets me 28% foc with 4″ feathers on back. I can shoot 2″ or 3″ feathers as well and notice no difference in flight. Over all arrow weight is 560grs.
Dan
in reply to: Ready to give FOC a try…Recommendations? #42922Brandon,
If you are going to cut those arrows go a 1/4″ at a time then test, test, test and test some more. No way to add length once its gone. An external footing will stiffen the spine a little as well.
I think that arrow is more than acceptable for black bear. I’ve never hunted em, would like to, but I hear they are easy to kill, the only problem being the fat has a tendency to close the hole so blood trails can be sparse. Grizz would be a different story i think.
Dan
P.S. Almost forgot, I could get you to about 28% foc I think, would require a different arrow tho. Weight wouldn’t change much.
in reply to: Ready to give FOC a try…Recommendations? #42885I think its acceptable, especially for deer sized game, but I would be using brass inserts and not the standard aluminum in a finished arrow. The brass inserts really toughen up that part of the shaft. I’ve had heads break before that section of the shaft does when using brass.
in reply to: Ready to give FOC a try…Recommendations? #39222I think what I’m going to do is try to stick with the Heritage 250’s. I’m going to place an order for some 100 gr brass inserts and 200 gr field points and go from there. Do you think that plan may work? Should I try more weight? Thanks alot guys.
I think that will end up being to weak but if it is you can always build out the strike plate.
in reply to: Ready to give FOC a try…Recommendations? #37936Brandon, I’m not sure what the shelf cut is on that bow but according to Stu Millers spine calculator, using +1/8 for the shelf cut, those arrows are a little weak just like you said. It says that if you took a Goldtip 7595 Black XTHunter and cut it to 29″, added a 50gr insert and either a 175 gr or 200 head you would hit 22% foc with an overall arrow weight of 530grs with the 200gr head. If you used an ICS Hunter shaft instead the weight would come in around 550grs with an foc of 21%.
Your set up right now weighs 511grs with 11% foc.
Now this is a starting point and not set in stone, but I do find the calculator to be fairly close. At least close enough to get started and tune from there.
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