[richard roop]

in reply to: FOC, Tieing the threads together #168395

Much food for thought, and admittedly I have not read every bit of this but something did catch my eye; the part about cutting back on fletching on arrows with broadheads.

I would strongly suggest doing that with small careful steps. I’ve flight tested my broadheads upwind, down wind, cross wind both ways and once thru a dust devil. My shield cut 5 1/2″ x 3/4″ helical fletching is possibly overkill but I know without a doubt that they’re going to perform even if I pluck my release a bit.

One more thing that I seldom see mentioned is flight testing broadheads at distance.  A friend & I were once doing some pre-season roving with practice broadheads. All was well at reasonable distances.  The sitting jackrabbit out about 100 yards was too good to pass up so we lobbed a couple. My friend’s arrow flew fine for about 50 yards and then took a hard right for no apparent reason. Follow-up shots did the same. An indication that something wasn’t as ‘right’ as it could be.  Switching from straight fletch to helical solved the problem.

[richard roop]

in reply to: Whatcha Got Going 2024? #168289

Just finished reading Agincourt by Bernard Cornwell. Most excellent account of one of history’s epic battles fought by archers. I highly recommend it.

[richard roop]

in reply to: 80 joule with recurve bow?! #168164

This has got my brain housing group scrambled. In the words of the Philosopher Fudd  “There’s something screwy going on here”.

Is it possible that when they say 80 Joules (59.02 foot pounds) that they are referring to the draw weight of the bow and not the energy of the arrow at one foot ????  That would make more sense but that’s a pretty stout stick and not a poundage I would recommend for a beginner or a casual shooter.

and;

When you say 33 gr. can we assume that’s Grams and not Grains ???  The Metric System is not my strong suit.

And;

Last but not least, I think that most of us here would really like to hear about archery in Denmark. The rounds that you shoot, the history and the critters you can hunt.

[richard roop]

in reply to: 80 joule with recurve bow?! #168163

Greetings from S.E. Arizona

This is taxing my math skills to the max so if I’ve got it wrong somebody PLEASE let me know.

As I understand it, a Joule is 0.7377 foot pounds. 80 of them would be 59.02 foot pounds. Using the numbers for my 60# Super Diablo, with a 500 grain arrow at 190 fps, I’m getting 40.07 foot pounds. Mass in grains X V X V divided by 450437. Or in other words not enough Joules by a bunch ??  Doesn’t seem right ………….. unless I hit a shoulder blade or big bone I tend to blow thru deer sized critters completely.  Either I’ve got something wrong or whoever wrote your game law doesn’t have a clear understanding of archery.  Possibly both.

Is there a Rocket Scientist in the building ??????

[richard roop]

in reply to: Whatcha Got Going 2024? #168162

Either a Range or a sandy sand wash would be fine with me.  Real roving is a real blast !!!!

[richard roop]

in reply to: Whatcha Got Going 2024? #168080

Ray ………………. It’s my understanding that there’s a club over near Silver City, Magnus Bowmen. I’ve never shot with them as they’re a no rest / off the shelf club but if they have an open invitational sometime, perhaps we could meet and fling a few.

[richard roop]

in reply to: Whatcha Got Going 2024? #168029

Got over to Tucson Mt. Park and shot a 3D fun round with Desert Archers. Awesome range in a forest of Saguaro Cactus, Prickley Pear, Cholla and Mesquite & Palo Verde trees.  Bonus yellow & purple flowers covering the ground.  Good bunch of folks, a great course, and a good time had by all.  Didn’t even lose an arrow …………… although it wasn’t for a lack of trying.

[richard roop]

in reply to: Whatcha Got Going 2024? #167989

Got over to Roosevelt Lake this last week-end to hunt the carp rut. Had a great time even though they were only running mostly in the 5 pound range.  I did manage to get one about seven pounds.

Interesting to note; My carp bow is an old Pearson Signature take-down 55xx  that has always felt a bit ‘rough’ on the draw. Since I normally shoot 60# I just figured it was the bow.  At some point during the day I noticed that my regular carp shooting glove was barely covering the crease in my finger joints.  Switched to my back-up glove and what a difference it made. The draw was much smoother !!!  Seems that I was clutching the string and putting tension on the inside of the draw hand rather than the outside. My hit / shot ratio went up, too.  Sometimes it’s the little things right in front of you that can make a difference.

So ……….. Bow’s shooting great, got a bunch of fillets, the buzzards put on quite a show with the carcasses,   and the wind was even at my back for a change paddling back to the boat launch.  Pretty good day !!!!

[richard roop]

in reply to: Bow & Arrow Specs for Big Game Hunting #167862

As far as I know there is nothing in archery that is carved in stone from on high.  Again, no one size fits all.  I once had a guy order a set of 2219s  filled with sand. It gave him a point on distance of about 12 yards.  He had a killer tree stand right over a trail into a waterhole.  The shot was almost straight down and he was most interested in having an exit hole for the blood trail.  Not a set-up most of us would use but for him it was golden.

Here’s another thought on penetration;  Bow tune and a perfectly flying arrow will affect penetration more than a few extra pounds of weight and a less than perfect flight.  Form also enters into this.

Nobody ever said that this was easy but the greater challenge, the greater the reward.

[richard roop]

in reply to: TBM Group Hunts? #167859

I’m open to the idea depending on the when & where.

Would love a Grunt Hunt for feral pigs in Texas.

[richard roop]

in reply to: Whatcha Got Going 2024? #167824

Makes perfect sense at an angle !!!

Yes, good to see young people doing something besides burying their faces in a smart phone.

[richard roop]

in reply to: Whatcha Got Going 2024? #167818

Aeronut;

I’m confused. If that’s her on the far right and shooting target 12, isn’t she shooting across the entire line ?????

Getting good weather here. Carp should be rutting soon. We have hills that are awash with color from the poppies & such.

[richard roop]

in reply to: Bow & Arrow Specs for Big Game Hunting #167793

Ok …………………… Arrows;

This is the best advice that you’ll ever get;  TAKE EVERYTHING THAT YOU SEE, HEAR, READ, OR THINK WITH A COUPLE OF GRAINS OF SALT.  Including anything I tell you!!!  Then see how it applies to you and your situation.  What kind of shots are you likely to get ?? Close range in brush or farther shots on rolling hills ??? Practice like you’re going to hunt.

There are those who say that a F.O.C. at 10% to 12%  is good and therefore Extreme F.O.C. is extremely good.  More weight up front will mean more penetration but also put more arch in your archery.  This is something that you’ll have to work out for your ownself  for your own situation.

[richard roop]

in reply to: Bow & Arrow Specs for Big Game Hunting #167779

Greetings Zach from way south of you. Hope to see you around here regular.

In answer to your question; Long story less long …………….. there is no ‘right’ answer or ‘one size fits all’.

First and foremost above all other things; What weight can you shoot accurately IN A HUNTING SITUATION ????? One shot, no warm-up, possibly cold & wet, likely from a kneeling position.  Next, how dedicated are you ?? To me, 40# seems a bit on the light side. Going up in weight can involve $$. Five pounds at a time is about right to maintain good form. I buy used bows that catch my eye on eBay if the price is reasonable.  I can shoot my regular bow for a session then grab one 5 pounds heavier for a few shots, ending with another 5 more pounds heavier for a few less shots.  Gradual increases. Pulled muscles tend to be detrimental to form.

Arrows are a whole ‘nother can of worms. We can debate that until the camp fire burns low or we end up in a fist-fight.  Go with what’s the most accurate.

Good luck & keep in touch.

 

 

 

[richard roop]

in reply to: For those who shoot more than one bow…. #167716

jdinpa;

Greetings and salutations from scenic Safford Az.

Welcome aboard !!!!

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