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Now I’ve seen everything! :roll::shock: 😆
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I find there is usually a sliver of truth in everything. In this case, it is a small sliver!! Here are my initial reactions, not necessarily in order:
– It is true that we give off electrical signals, that’s what EKG’s and the like pick up in the hospital.
– The spectrum specified in the website is not high energy. Just as you can’t shine a flashlight through your hunting cloths, these slightly more energetic waves will not pass.
– If metal fibers are all that is required to block the radiation, get some $14.00 sliver ion thermals at walmart. (made with silver thread which inhibits body oder bacteria, this works in my opinion)
– Hunters (like me) are suckers for new stuff. But I hope that we have now found the sucker limit. Otherwise, we are all doomed!!! 😯 🙄 😳My skin crawls with the stupidity of it.
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One more thing,…
Deer do seem to have a sixth sense. Especially old does… It’s a shame that we (modern folk) are always looking for the fastest shortcut to make things easy.
Beating the deers senses and making a clean kill is the ultimate challenge and the point of it all (mostly). This product is yet another attempt to reduce that challenge.
It’s like playing basketball with a 5 foot wide hoop. What’s the point?
I believe this sixth sense is a sense. We need to respect it and the deer, and the world we live in. There is not a pill for every ache. And there shouldn’t be.
OK, I’m done.
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Hey Patrick…Will you be using a knife with a knapped blade? hammered blade? or just get a chunk of obsidian and wrap a piece of rawhide around part of it so you don’t cut the shizang outta your hand? lol. How about just affixing a big round rock to the end of a stick and using that as a club…go complete caveman. Just a couple more options. :lol::lol:
Michael
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MontanaFord wrote: Hey Patrick…Will you be using a knife with a knapped blade? hammered blade? or just get a chunk of obsidian and wrap a piece of rawhide around part of it so you don’t cut the shizang outta your hand? lol. How about just affixing a big round rock to the end of a stick and using that as a club…go complete caveman. Just a couple more options. :lol::lol:
Michael
I’m thinking the obsidian/rawhide would be the most logical choice since I want to go primitive.:lol::lol:
A club? Hmmm…didn’t think of that. I’ll have to reconsider. Obsidian knife or club and the electromagnetic suit, which combination would be more primitive?
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I will stick to my recurve. But to make it more challenging I take a can of spray paint and sneak up and spray a quarter size dot on the kill zone. Then I move back about 15 yards and use my recurve. 8)
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American ingenuity at its best! What a wonderful product- it’ll sell like hotcakes for hundreds of iou notes and just think of the ancillary products that we’ll also need- such as; special anti-radiation glasses to keep that evil eye energy from spooking our intended prey; nose and mouth filters to scrub that nasty CO2 from our breath- hey, A. Gore is with that!
You could use it to save your life if your boat sank in the ocean to thwart the electromagnetic sensing pores on the snouts of vicious sharks just waiting to turn you into human sashimi!
Hallelujah!- I can finally get rid of this aluminum suit, hat and gloves that I usually hunt with- wonder why I didn’t bag a deer this year or any thing else for that matter! Couldn’t be the noise factor as I steathily sneak thru the woods like a giant piece of reflective crinkly foil- I mean I wear earplugs!
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“The 6th sense is EXPLAINABLE and PREVETABLE” (as in … to prevet)
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Alex, now that’s a handsome mugshot! Unless my electro-magnetic field has somehow been “preveted” and thus I disremember, that pic was taken a couple Septembers ago during a long mid-day rest break atop a ridge where I assured you, and myself, that “we won’t disturb any elk here,” and consequently you had your boots off and I had boots, socks and shirt off and was sound asleep in the chilly sun … when several cows and a gorgeous 5×5 came up for a nice long visit, with me sitting with my back to them and you whispering, “Don’t turn around, don’t move,” then when they got bored and left you chasing after in socks. Yep, you sure know how to pick your guides and self-portraits! 😯 dp
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I don’t know how they can quantify their claims. Even though the 6th sense is widely accepted I’m not sure it is beleived by everyone. I know I’ve had mature animals back away from what seemed like an ideal situation. Was it a 6th sense or did the animal see the glint in my eye? Even if these claims are true I won’t be buying any of it. I’ve never bought the scent control stuff either. I guess the way we hunt is truly traditional, the way our ancestors hunted without a bunch of stuff we don’t need. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t have deer walk by me at arms length ALL the time but I know what it takes to make that happen on enough occasions to get a shot. And taking the extra precautions to keep as odor free as possible, checking the wind, and moving slowly and deliberately is free of charge and it works!
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David Petersen wrote: Alex, now that’s a handsome mugshot! Unless my electro-magnetic field has somehow been “preveted” and thus I disremember, that pic was taken a couple Septembers ago during a long mid-day rest break atop a ridge where I assured you, and myself, that “we won’t disturb any elk here,” and consequently you had your boots off and I had boots, socks and shirt off and was sound asleep in the chilly sun … when several cows and a gorgeous 5×5 came up for a nice long visit, with me sitting with my back to them and you whispering, “Don’t turn around, don’t move,” then when they got bored and left you chasing after in socks. Yep, you sure know how to pick your guides and self-portraits! 😯 dp
Dave, I sure know how to pick’em! I could even post a pic of the guide taking a nap in his socks, but….
As for that 5X5, I’ll never forget that moment, when what I thought were deadfall white pine limbs suddenly started to move in the deep blue Colorado midday sky, and I suddenly had the biggest antlers I had ever seen 20 yards away!
And, I also won’t ever forget feeling like I was the baaaadest bowhunter on the planet during that shoeless chase. -
maybe that sixth sense is because they have partially made you? Or what they see does not belong in the area and it makes them nervous. they can’t quiet make it out but they know it doesn’t belong there. Like the family dog, if I move something in the back yard from its usual place she freaks out, especially in low light, she knows that whatever it is “does not belong there”
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My senses are telling me that I might ought to listen to my 6th sense. Since I worked behind energized control panels for the power company for forty years I must be spooking deer from afar:lol:. No wonder :idea:!!!!!!!!!! I be one charged up dude.
Just use a deodorant with aluminum chloride and that ought to diffuse the electrical outputs perhaps.The deer are in their home and notice things different like you would your living room. I think all critters have a sense of “umm, something is ……………………..here? -
Electric output from muscle contractions are widely used by a range of animals. Platypus, rays and paddlefish use it for locating prey at range….electric “eels” for stunning/killing prey.
They all have fine tuned (and well documented) sensory systems that are cabable of handling weak electric impulses.
To claim that deer have a sensory system cabable of detecting even weaker signals (water is a far better medium for propagation of electric signal than air) will have to be backed up by MUCH better documentation than that presented in the site!
Actually…I dont see any serious documentation at all, which arouse my suspicion to say the least;-)
Cheers
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I am not convinced that the “6th sense” is a natural sense, but possibly mearly a sense that we have caused whitetail to evolve into?!?!?!!! Think about it like this, lets say a fellow shoots the biggest doe out of a group of 8, there are 7 other deer that have learned there lesson, and will probably notice a phenomenom called “Deja Vu” the next time they are in a similar scenerio. I dont think it will have anything to do with EMF, or any other abreviation! This is simply the theory of a youngin, that really doesnt have that much experience as a bowhunter or even a hunter for that matter. But that is truely what I beleive, I also wonder if deer can communicate like we can, I know they have vocals obviously, but can they “talk” to each other, and would a mother be able to pass along the “6th sense” to her kin? I know that mother does teach, I have seen them, they will purposley take there kin and go right by the road, and just stand there. With no intention of crossing the road, almost as if the mother is teaching her kids to stay away as much as possible! I just think that all hunters basically hunt in 3 ways, treestand, ground, stalking. So chances are that deer have seen at least all of these techniques used once, if not several times. It is my greatest fear that with new technologies, “modern hunters” will create a super alert game animal. Just my .02
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Greatreearcher wrote: It is my greatest fear that with new technologies, “modern hunters” will create a super alert game animal. Just my .02
ChrisChris, it’s already happened. Think about what the whitetails today are descended from. Today, we are hunting the descendants of the deer that survived the genocidal market hunting from a hundred years ago. Those deer that survived were either very lucky or had some adaptation, perhaps behavioral, that allowed them to avoid such tremendous pressure. It’s called a genetic bottleneck, and what emerges is a little different than what goes in. It happened with the Bison as well, but they are physically, and perhaps behaviorally, different from what once roamed the Great Plains.
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I posted a question under the video asking about the so called study. So far, no reply.
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Clay, you have to let us know what they say:D. I forgot about market hunting! Then that proves my self theory definatly correct. There are just some situations where nothing you have done is “wrong” and the animal busts you. But we have done something wrong, we have hunted the way we were taught, the way the teacher was taught, so it is basically the same techniques. I wonder if we go against what we were taught how we would do??? Obviously we couldnt go marching through the woods making noise?! That wouldnt work, but somehow hunt differently and I bet we could put he hurt on them?!
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Greatreearcher wrote: Clay, you have to let us know what they say:D. I forgot about market hunting! Then that proves my self theory definatly correct. There are just some situations where nothing you have done is “wrong” and the animal busts you. But we have done something wrong, we have hunted the way we were taught, the way the teacher was taught, so it is basically the same techniques. I wonder if we go against what we were taught how we would do??? Obviously we couldnt go marching through the woods making noise?! That wouldnt work, but somehow hunt differently and I bet we could put he hurt on them?!
hehe….problem is: Hunting any other way wont satisfy us! People have found ways to circumvent hunting traditions…like shooting from vehicles (that deer under normal conditions dont find threatening)! In populated areas i bet that a person jogging, in highly visible sweatgear can get closer to game than a camo dressed hunter…its all about what is percived as posing a threat.
But that wont keep me from hunting like my forefathers…because it feels right! Isnt that the whole point of bow hunting, and in particular tradbow hunting…choosing a less effectiv method (relativ to using a gun) because it feels right?
Cheers
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Here is what I can say from direct observation: When I walk in the woods as a hiker — no weapon and no attempt at stealth — deer seem far more relaxed and off-guard than when I am hunting. My conclusion, right or wrong, is that deer etc. can read our body language to know whether we’re in a pradatory, aka “sneaky” mode or not. It’s nothing magical, but simply an evolved sensory sensitivity to the way predators move as opposed to non-predators. I have also convinced myself that deer recognize us as predators from our front-set eyes. This makes it essential at close range to wear a face mask.
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Bloodless wrote: Here is what I can say from direct observation: When I walk in the woods as a hiker — no weapon and no attempt at stealth — deer seem far more relaxed and off-guard than when I am hunting. My conclusion, right or wrong, is that deer etc. can read our body language to know whether we’re in a pradatory, aka “sneaky” mode or not. It’s nothing magical, but simply an evolved sensory sensitivity to the way predators move as opposed to non-predators. I have also convinced myself that deer recognize us as predators from our front-set eyes. This makes it essential at close range to wear a face mask.
I would be willing to bet that you are forgetting a hidden variable in your observation! Time of year! I bet you were probably not hiking during gun season. The pressure that the deer are under because of hunting changes there behavior. I know that during the summer months I can stalk within spittin range with my camera in camo, and they just stare, usually go back to eatting untill I try to get even closer. And during those summer months trying to get film of a whitetail in velvet, I was definatly going into sneaky mode!!!
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Doesnt a ghillie suit do the same thing??:?
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I think 2blade hit on something. They notice something is different. I can definitely see that happening just as I would notice the coffee table in a different place if I came home and saw it was moved. At first they just notice the difference. Then they know something is up after they wind you or you shoot and miss. Then muzzle loader season comes and everyone who does that scouts all over and spooks them up. Same thing the next week when gun season starts and then you have the mature deer going nocturnal and deer behavior that GTA described with very skittish deer. Once that pressure eases up they go back to being those seemingly approachable animals of summer. I buy the intentions theory but I think it is more about body language and predator recognition. So what does this tell us? Take advantage of the early season when you can walk with the deer. Ask yourself when setting up your stand or ground blind, “will this setup be noticed?” work harder to blend in. And try to relax and not look so predatory but I know it’s hard!
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Now what Snuffornot is really trying to say is that we need to hide the bow behind our backs and just casually walk up to them with regular clothing on:D
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Greatreearcher wrote: Now what Snuffornot is really trying to say is that we need to hide the bow behind our backs and just casually walk up to them with regular clothing on:D
No, don’t move Bucky’s coffee table and he won’t know you’re there. 🙂
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OOO okay, that sounds better:D
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SteveMcD:
WOW!! Deer certainly do have an instinct but, then, so do humans and if one doesn’t concentrate on the eyes of a deer, and it doesn’t get your scent, it may not spook. BUT, a suit of clothes to thwart all those natural emotions and electric currents, give me a cattle prod and spank me silly!!
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Buckhorn73 wrote: SteveMcD:
WOW!! Deer certainly do have an instinct but, then, so do humans and if one doesn’t concentrate on the eyes of a deer, and it doesn’t get your scent, it may not spook. BUT, a suit of clothes to thwart all those natural emotions and electric currents, give me a cattle prod and spank me silly!!
LOL!!! My feelings EXACTLY!!!:D:lol:
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Well, this just goes to show there really is a sucker born every minute. This is right up there with buying bottles of water and pet rocks. If P.T. Barnum were around today he’d be selling both of these along with bottles of air and sure as shooting, somebody would actually pay for a bottle of air!
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:idea:I’m off to build a lead ghillie suit and just to be safe wrap my head in aluminium foil……..they won’t see me.
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I believe the alleged “sixth sense” is nothing more than an organism being completely in tune with it’s environment. Our senses today are so hammered by our excess culture that we hardly ever pick up on the subtle nuances a passing creature gives. But think back to your times in the woods, weren’t there a few occasions when you knew a critter was there without any hard evidence from your primary senses and almost magically said creature emerged from the brush or was standing behind you. Those times when you really got lost in your hunt. I know I have, and on those occasions I could never quite put my finger on what tipped me off to the animals presence.
Quite frankly I like it that I don’t understand how this works for me or my prey. I hope I never figure out all the little mysteries in this world, it makes my short time on this planet all the more interesting.
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Johnny2
I agree, being completely in tune, is difficult for us because we have to switch our senses from our world to theirs soon after leaving the truck and heading for our stand. For the times we can acheive that we know what it must have been like to live like our ancestors. And sensing an animal is there, I’ve had that happen a number of times. Can’t explain it but it happens. I know I have the right vibe and I’m in tune when the forest creatures don’t notice me even as I ease toward mt stand. Ever have a small bird land on your arrow shaft? Now that is blending in.
Duncan
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