The weight of things

[Ralph]

#6492

Just something to think on, and check out.

I’ve been piddling inside today, it’s hot outside 99*, and decided to weigh and spine test some arrows and shafts.

Whilst in the process I spied my box of broadheads on a shelf and decided to find three matching really close in weight to try on some experimental arrow woods that I’ve been checking out.

Boy was I in for a surprise.

I know when you sharpen broadheads, you shave weight off but I guess I’ve overdone some a bit much over time.

Some of these broadheads I’ve had for years and years and years 8), enough Ralphie, you’ve had’em long time :), used them, put’em up, sharpened them, used them …. whoa, the weight of some where way off.

I mean like 125 gr. points originally all the way down to 111 gr, 115 gr. 117 gr. Some 120,121 gr.

So I’m saying if you have a selection of old broadheads, one’s that are dear to you, that you’ve had around for years, sharpened many times and such, you might be wise to check their weight. You may be shooting not what you think you are.

My last two old Eskimos and last three Rib Teks along with some old MA 2’s I guess go into the memory box.

[Doc Nock]

#51867

Well, Hoss…

Let me share some thoughts…

I buy NEW heads, I weigh em… blame it on being a German, Tutonic, knuckled headed Deutchman from PA, …. but I weighed em.

Before I tune shafts, I weigh field points…

NEWS FLASH!

They ain’t what the bag says!

I don’t think I ever found a BH that weight any closer then +/-5 gr to what it said… and a variance of 10-15 gr wasn’t unusual.

so you may have sharpened off a lot of the original weight—- or not!

[Ralph]

#51912

I always weight new stuff. I was just surprised how much some of the old differed. 125 down to 111 ain’t in the package variable game. 125,121,129 yeah, no prob.

I just mark those shafts so I know whether to draw a 1/4″ inch more or less depending on point weight. 😉

How come that don’t go for me, I shave every morning and I’m old and used. 😀 My weight don’t go down. I’ve been 196# for the last forever.

Doc I can’t believe the perfectionist German side of you would allow a difference of more than a grain. :lol::lol:

[Doc Nock]

#51948

So, Ralph, you’re tellin me at your age, you REMEMBER (beyond a shadow of a doubt) that you weighed those heads when THEY were NEW and they were spot on at 125?:roll:

If you say so…

AS for me and the weight being off… it wasn’t when they were mounted, smarty britches…

That is why they made #8 shot… few bb’s down the ferrule till they weigh what they’re supposed to…

Course, us carbon types need to weigh inserts, both ones for shaft and heads!

Can’t help you on woodie arrows… need to over draw to get “more powder” on em when the head’s light…

As for shaving…fergitaboudit,: try some prune juice…lighten ya right up, Hoss:lol:

[Ralph]

#51962

If you remember, weight works on the other end of those carbons also. Bruce said so one April past. 😀

See, I can remember things maybe I shouldn’t oughta. :wink :8)

As for prune juice, I prefer lots of money. It relieves the burden in much more pleasant manner.

[Stephen Graf]

#52459

hmmmm….

15, 20, even 30 grains difference in arrow weight doesn’t seem to bother me. ‘Course nobody ever gives me any knifes for hitting their dots like they do R2.

I wouldn’t let a little thing like that 20 grains of weight keep me from shooting a broadhead, long as it’s edge was keen.

I might go so far as to say that I can feel the weight of the arrows as I shoot and compensate for it. Which reminds me of an old Howard Hill video where he is shooting in front of a group of people who all have their bows and arrows.

Of course the arrows are all different weights, lengths and spines, but Howard takes arrows from different people and puts them all in the bulls eye.

These days, I go for more interesting excuses than boring point weight to explain why I come home empty handed. Here’s one of my favorites I give my wife: “Well darlin, I had me a big old knock kneed buck right there in front o’me. Prit’neer could a reached out and grabbed him, I coudda. It wassa sure ting I tell ya! Just as I was gonna shoot, this half nekked wood nymph came runnin’ past beggin me to come wit’her. Dat o’buck run off and I tolt that old Nymph to get gone ’cause I had me the best wife in the world. See Darlin?

We men of action 🙄 need to do better than blame our trusty steel.

[Ralph]

#52520

Must be people around that do know the difference between arrow weights, weight up front, weight in the aft,:) or there wouldn’t be many, many discussions about the subject.

The point I make is a filed down, wore down point puts less weight on the front of the shaft and I’m thinking that could de-tune some people’s arrows.

Boring as it is maybe a few little things need to be pointed out occasionally perhaps.:)

I believe there’s an old adage saying that it’s the little things that count.

We men of action need to tend to our trusty steel.

Excuses are an afterthought.

[Doc Nock]

#52530

R2 wrote: J

Whilst in the process I spied my box of broadheads on a shelf and decided to find three matching really close in weight to try on some experimental arrow woods that I’ve been checking out.

I enjoyed your light hearted banter, Steve.:D

I know you didn’t miss Ralph’s point that he’s testing new arrows and wanted his heads to be as close as possible to each other in weight. Ralph’s on record as being far more “hands on” while I’m a bit more “data driven”, but even R2 knows a test’s result is only as good as the testing process.

BTW, I know nobody shares their hidey hole they hunt, but you could send that woods nymph up this way… I don’t have any such obligations at home to thwart my abilities to accept such an offer…:roll::shock:

[Ralph]

#52563

! Just as I was gonna shoot, this half nekked wood nymph came runnin’ past beggin me to come wit’her

I guess things change with time?

A nymph?

And Doc, I’ve seen some of those nymphs you’ve tied up.:D

Good job.

[Doc Nock]

#52903

Wha happen to your pic, Ralph?

I saw it before but you edited your post…maybe you have to re-post your pic when you do that?

Since your copy is still there, and you say I tied up nymphs, we’re not talking about Wood Nymphs that ole Steve sees in the woods (You don’t live in CO where they smoke pot do you, Steve?), but them ain’t the kind I get to tie up…

Mine are far more sedate and fully dressed, at least as well as my 5 thumbs can do…

[Ralph]

#52922

Doc Nock wrote: Wha happen to your pic, Ralph?

I saw it before but you edited your post…maybe you have to re-post your pic when you do that?

Maybe so uh. If it’s working, lesson learned. Lost the pic so I find another.

Ha, had to find a backdoor way in but I find!!!!!

[Ralph]

#53039

Good to see ya hangin’ Doc:D

Back to the weight of things 😀

How do you like shooting with the weight of a bow quiver?

On my longbows I like a bow quiver but small compact ones.

Two arrow ones are my preference. I have two that I’ve made, modified, with parts and pieces of different makes and models of different brands.

They’re lightweight and don’t get in the way but they add just enough weight to feel good.

I do use another that was a four arrow quiver but it’s been trimmed down also. R2ified:D

I rarely hunt with a recurve but when I do I have a one arrow quiver I put on it. It weighs nearly nothing and since my recurve is heavier, in physical weight, it all works out for me.

[Doc Nock]

#53054

I should try to save that little trout pic…remuinds me of great times in MT snooping the tiny tumbling high mountain creeks…li’l “Spruce” trout they called them locally…

OK… I’ll “weigh” in on a bow quivers.

I tried many types that were available… ones attached to limb bolts on a T/D RC (now LB) and slide on, strap on, etc.

I found they totally messed up the balance on a beautiful bow with that weight hanging off the side…

Went to a modified back quiver that is an open affair I can get arrows out and put back without doing jumping jacks in the woods!

My $.02

[Ralph]

#61726

Kinda on topic.

I found this interesting that I stumbled upon:

[Ralph]

#8728

Figured out what to do with one of those old broadheads that I’ve filed the weight off of over the years. 😀

I drilled and tapped and epoxied in a screw in broadhead adapter so I can hot melt any glue-on broadhead that I choose.

[Stephen Graf]

#8734

Now that’s sweet! I bet that will make a good skinning knife, let us know…

[grumpy]

#8841

Steve Graf wrote: hmmmm….

These days, I go for more interesting excuses than boring point weight to explain why I come home empty handed. Here’s one of my favorites I give my wife: “Well darlin, I had me a big old knock kneed buck right there in front o’me. Prit’neer could a reached out and grabbed him, I coudda. It wassa sure ting I tell ya! Just as I was gonna shoot, this half nekked wood nymph came runnin’ past beggin me to come wit’her. Dat o’buck run off and I tolt that old Nymph to get gone ’cause I had me the best wife in the world. See Darlin?

Don’t ever let the truth get n the way of a good story. 😀

[grumpy]

#8847

What was Fred (the Bear, not the mouse) talking about when he said they were meant to be bent?

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