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I went out this past weekend to bare shaft test my arrows for the first time, not that I have been having issues with them just to try it out and see what happens. I noticed that when they were hitting the target it was always nock high but right where I was looking. I lowered my nock point, same thing it was nock high when it would hit the target. I ended up lowering the nock a 1/4 of an inch from where I usually shoot and still nock high. Then I moved it up roughly a 1/4 of an inch from where I usually nock…same thing nock high. I talked to the archery man you also shoots traditional and he said that its going nock high due to the fact that the arrow is hitting my shelf and kicking the tail up. This made since to me but why was it that I could not shoot the arrow and get it to be straight in the target? I shot close to a dozen bare shafts that day and not one shot even, every single one was nock high when I pulled it from the target? Is it just a bad release or could it be something different?
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Your nock could be sliding down the serving upon release, which can result in what you’re seeing — arrow bouncing off the shelf creating in an inability to tune out nock high flight. Try adding a second nock locator a little less than 1/8″ below your arrow nock and see if you can tune it level.
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I actually have the second nock point. With my sting nock point I have a upper and lower nock point and put my arrow between the two. I asked someone else and there response was the nock maybe sticking to the string which would make since on a couple of the shots, but not all the shots
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I believe this topic was covered in Masters of the Barebow 2. It was something that was quite rare but was correctable. I will watch it again and get back to you with his answer or remedy to this. I’m sure there is something lacking.
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How tight does the arrow nock fit to the string?
If your hearing a rather loud click, then your nocks may be fitting too tight for a clean release.
Do you shoot split finger or three under? Unless your real careful you may very well be using too much third finger on the string.
Troy
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A little nock high isn’t bad. If you are hitting where you are looking, then it can’t be too much.
I have found that some bows just shoot that way. If you can’t get rid of it all, I wouldn’t worry on it too long.
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What I ended up doing last night was shooting a bareshaft at 20 yards and it hit the target and it was the straightest I have seen it hit the target….bad news was that it was a foot foot and a half below where I wanted it to hit. I would watch the arrow flight and I would see the arrow flying nock high but eventually would straighten out to hit the target, like I said just very low. I assume adjusting the nock point higher and I will start to see more of a change? I am doing this way to late in the season to be messing around with this stuff now, its going to have to wait till after deer season is done. THEN back to business with it 🙂
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I’ve read from Brian Sorrels that a little bit of nock high is not unusual and is due to idiosyncrasies in the shooting style, just as long as it’s not too much. I finally got around to bare shafting today and just confirmed what I already knew – my shafts are too stiff 🙁 So hard to get it right when you have 31″ draw and no room to play with 🙄
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I use to have a 31 inch draw length but after reading Fred Asbells books and watching his videos I have decreased my draw by several inches just by adjusting my feet. Instead of my feet pointing perpendicular to the target I now have them facing more at a 30-45 degree angle and that has decreased my draw length due to the fact that I do not have to cross my entire body. I still ankor in the same place though. Try that out
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Wexbow,
When you have that long of a draw length, trimming arrows isn’t much of an option. For me, finding arrow to accomidate a 32″ draw length can be tricky.
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J.Wesbrock wrote: Wexbow,
When you have that long of a draw length, trimming arrows isn’t much of an option. For me, finding arrow to accomidate a 32″ draw length can be tricky.
Why would he trim arrows, if they are too stiff spine already? He needs to add more weight to the points to soften the spine.
Taterman
I was going to ask here if anyone thought a flat shelf could be the culprit. I think I will try that on mine. Less contact is better anyway, as far as I am concerned.
This is the first bow I have had the nock high problem with.
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handirifle wrote: [quote=J.Wesbrock]Wexbow,
When you have that long of a draw length, trimming arrows isn’t much of an option. For me, finding arrow to accomidate a 32″ draw length can be tricky.
Why would he trim arrows, if they are too stiff spine already? He needs to add more weight to the points to soften the spine.
He wouldn’t. It was a general comment about one limitation to tuning when your draw length and maximum arrow length are basically the same. My apologies for any conufusion.
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Dennis Han from McCune, KS made wood shafts for Kyudo (Japanese) style archery. Kyudo archers anchor at the base of the neck so their draw lengths are extra long (my Kyudo DL would be about 35″-36″), requiring 36″ to 42″ arrows. Dennis closed down his operation some time back but I’ve heard he may re-open it. Kyudo shafts could be a good option for a knuckle dragger, er, I mean long-armed archer. Might be worth searching for them. Here’s Dennis’ website with current email address:
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Wexbow wrote: Interesting idea but does it affect consistency as I’d imagine it would introduce more side force on the bow arm? Probably just a matter of getting used to it I suppose.
I thought it would too, get it a try and find out for yourself. I think you would be quite surprised at the results 😛
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J.Wesbrock wrote: Wexbow,
When you have that long of a draw length, trimming arrows isn’t much of an option. For me, finding arrow to accomidate a 32″ draw length can be tricky.
It’s a nuisance alright J as I can’t err on the soft side and trim to requirements. I’ll probably try some 200 grain points and see how they fair (125g currently used). But that’s another pain as it’s actually hard to get heavier points over here because shooters aren’t generally matching points to broadheads because of bowhunting restrictions 🙄
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