''The Hammer '' small game blunt

[mhay]

#7501

I’m curious to find out if any the bow benders here use these heads .

Personaly , I find them to be terrific. Very tough and silent . Judo’s are great but tend to be fragile and noisy in flight and the quiver .

[David Petersen]

#62689

Can you provide a photo or link to photo?

[Bruce Smithhammer]

#62723

The Hammer is a good small game/stumping head. Pretty similar to the VPA Thumper. And both come in heavier weights for those of us who run higher FOC setups and want to keep our point weights consistent. I’m not a huge fan of Judos, personally.

[mhay]

#62757

Sorry , I can’t do the photo . 3 Rivers carries them . Comes in a 3 pack . Up to 250 grain .

I have been stumpin’ and squirrel hunting with mine , which are 250 gr. They are great . Drilled a squirrel between the ears . Looked like a 22 mag hollow point hit it.

After literally hundreds of shots into the ground they can still cut .And they hook up on weeds and grass making them nearly impossible to lose.

[gigglemonk]

#62803

I really like these in the 200gr. Im no longer a fan of judos. Its rocky where I hunt so tons of busted spring arms and the fact that I like a 200gr head.

The hammer is awesome.

[David Petersen]

#62884

Here a link to the 3Rivers page:

http://www.3riversarchery.com/The+Hammer+Small+Game+Blunt+Glue-On+3+Pack_i4911X_baseitem.html

It’s a variation on the Ace theme. I’ve used Ace for years and will stick with them for now. I never cared for the Judos either: too expensive, can’t conveniently be carried in a bow quiver even when put in backwards, aren’t notoriously accurate, break, can in fact slide under leaves and get lost. I had a couple a zillion years ago but when I shot one completely through a squirrel and it didn’t kill the squirrel — knocked him out of the top of his tree and stayed in so I recovered him, but it didn’t kill him — I tossed ’em. Many ways to skin a cat, or a squirrel. I think this Ace-Hammer idea is the best blunt design yet and I’m glad folks are now making them in the heavy head weights that Ashby’s research and personal experimentation are encouraging more and more of us to turn to.

[T Downing]

#63041

I have used them in the past & was very disappointed. Nearly all of them shattered or broke at the bottom of the point, near the shaft. The steel used seemed very fragile. As a result, I went back to Hex blunts which work perfectly for me…

[mhay]

#63043

I fully agree about the weight as well as the ACE & HAMMER design.

[wolfkill220]

#63128

Use both the hammer and the hex like em both .Both of them just knock the snot out of what i hit with them.

[Paul Mwttmann]

#63419

Hit two rabbits with these heads this week out of a 62# RD bow at 15 yards. One ended in a broken spine,and the other,which I hit midrift while sitting took off with the arrow trailing before I could get to it. Never saw the arrow again. Although I wouldn’t discount the hammer totally, the Ace Hex is my choice for rabbits.

[gigglemonk]

#21101

Today I had the experience Downing had. 2 out 3 ferrules shattered while stumping. Bamboo shafts are fine, VPA heads did fine on same stump as did the Hex. Bummer.

[David Coulter]

#21665

While I don’t think the judo would be the best small game head, I’ll stick with it for stumping. The hex heads don’t penetrate and that shock goes right into the shaft resulting in a break. I get good service out of the judos. The wires do eventually break and once you are down to two or one, they’ll really start to slide. I usually get a few months out of one. I generally only carry one at a time. Shooting two at a target increased my odds of a loss, so I stick to one and then go get it. dwc

[David Coulter]

#40158

After reading this thread, I decided to glue up a hex head that I used when shooting aluminum shafts. I only stumped with it once then because the third shot gave me a smashed shaft. The head didn’t penetrate enough to let the target absorb some of the shock. Now my arrows are carbon shafts with an aluminum collar. I’ve been shooting this hex head for a few days now and still cringe when the arrow bounces back at me off some immobile target, but not damage as far as I can tell. I find myself adjusting my pick of targets a bit to things that will give a little bit. I would imagine these things would pack quite a punch on small game. dwcphoto

[James Harvey]

#8849

I bought a pack of these a while a go and have been trying them out. I had been using rubber blunts over the top of the cheapo cylinder style screw in blunts. All those rubber blunts eventually had the steel blunt punching through the tips.

So with one caveat I’ve been really impressed with the hammers. They seem to dig in and grab quite well and have pretty devastating effects on whatever they run into.

Like fellas have mentioned above with the ferrule cracking, I’ve experienced what must be a manufacturing failure in the steel of the ferrule as the following photo shows what happened to one of mine just gluing it onto the adaptor when I first got it:

Nothing further has come of it but it’ll be my go to head for tough looking stumping targets to see if I can kill it. I’m shooting them out of my 45# supermag now so I’ll be surprised if I can wreck them.

[Fallguy]

#9142

I have not tried the Hammer but I have been using the 300 grain field points from 3 Rivers. The steel they are using to make them is soft I have bent 2 points that insisted on taking the low road. Jim’s picture seem to show the same weakness.

[Bruce Smithhammer]

#9197

An update to an old thread – I’ve been using VGA Thumpers pretty much exclusively for the last couple years, and I haven’t had a single problem with them. They’re tough, and they do a number on whatever they hit. Haven’t found much need to experiment with anything else.

[DK]

#14054

I use a field point that is 50gr lighter than my what I usually shoot and slide a .38 special shell case over it. One wrap of electrical tape and call it good. Accurate enough for small game and free.

[hay57]

#21819

Very interesting testimonials and ‘more than one way to skin a cat ‘.

I’m curious about the reports of cracks , bends and breaking .

I still have my three original Hammers . The only thing to happen so far is one of the sharp edges chipped off . Also , mine are the screw in type , mounted on 2216 aluminum and leaving the bow at 152 FPS .

I generally go months without shooting into a foam target .It’s usually just walking around the yard shooting dandelions , leaves , walnuts and the like . The yard is continually being thatched by the Hammer . Little narrow strips of sod being ripped up .

Golf balls are great fun when you have a ‘STUMPIN’ PARTNER’

[Troy Warner]

#24434

Like Smithammer I use the VPA small game Thumper, mainly because it comes in 300 GRN screw in to match my field points and broad head weight.

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