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Currently shoot a compound at 65# with 65% let-off. Wanting a Howard Hill longbow. Thinking of 50# draw weight at 28″ inches. Want plenty of penetration for black bear and hog. Wanting to switch from 125 grain to 150-160 grain broadhead. Have switched from carbon to wood arrows and love them, they shoot as good as any aluminum or carbon i have used. spine weight on arrows are 60-65,65-70. Would like to use same arrows for both bows, but understand may have to use proper draw weight to spine weight for longbow. Thanks for any info/opinions. Have a blessed Thanksgiving and God bless all.
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KConner — welcome to tradbow.com, and welcome to the happily addictive world of traditional archery and bowhunting. You are shooting wood arrows with a compound? Brother, that’s a first so far as I have heard, and potentially dangerous. As we recently advised another gentleman who is considering buying a Hill style bow, coming straight from compounds, it’s a huge leap that few even attempt. Not recommended. Consider going first with either a recurve or a deflex-reflex (hybrid) longbow. In any event, there’s no way to know if the arrows you are shooting in your wheelie will also fly well from a stickbow, no matter the shaft material, without trying. I’d also check to see if you can handle a bit more than 50# comfortably, which, with the right arrow system, will equip you for most any N.A. game. It’s entirely possible that you can shoot the same arrows in both bows with different point weights. You’ll just have to try. In the end, perfect arrow flight is the single most important issue and it doesn’t pay to economize. Enjoy the learning process. Dave
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You won’t be able to get the same arrows to tune properly in from both a 65# compound and a 50# Hill longbow. They are at opposite ends of the energy scale. You’ll either end up dangerously underspined with the compound, or grossly overspined with the longbow.
I agree with Dave’s advice regarding the transition from compound to Hill-style longbow. That’s a huge learning curve, but not impossible. Personally, I’d start with a recurve first and then go from there.
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rose city archery has a chart for spine weights and claims for wood arrows shot from a compound bow. I think there would be some serious liability on their part for “advertising” such things if not known to be safely done, unless they are pushing the product. With that said, i was always under the impression that a wood arrow could not be safely shot from a compound bow. However, if spine weight is matched or even +5 lb heavier to the particular bow (compound) how does this differ to a very heavy long bow shooting wood arrows? My compound is 20 years old and not blazing fast as the current compound bows. Shoots @ 200 fps with about 400 grain total weight arrow/ 125 gr broadhead set up. Now shooting wood arrow with 160 gr broadhead @ 600 grain total. shoot tight groups with no signs of splintering or breakage. It was just my way of starting to get trad stuff since i can’t afford my bow yet.
David Petersen wrote: KConner — welcome to tradbow.com, and welcome to the happily addictive world of traditional archery and bowhunting. You are shooting wood arrows with a compound? Brother, that’s a first so far as I have heard, and potentially dangerous. As we recently advised another gentleman who is considering buying a Hill style bow, coming straight from compounds, it’s a huge leap that few even attempt. Not recommended. Consider going first with either a recurve or a deflex-reflex (hybrid) longbow. In any event, there’s no way to know if the arrows you are shooting in your wheelie will also fly well from a stickbow, no matter the shaft material, without trying. I’d also check to see if you can handle a bit more than 50# comfortably, which, with the right arrow system, will equip you for most any N.A. game. It’s entirely possible that you can shoot the same arrows in both bows with different point weights. You’ll just have to try. In the end, perfect arrow flight is the single most important issue and it doesn’t pay to economize. Enjoy the learning process. Dave
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KConner
As a former wheelie bow hunter, and now addicted trad bow hunter, I say, “welcome, and don’t look back.” You have entered into an arena of a lot of fun in shooting and hunting with a trad bow, and also into a group of really good folks who are more than willing to advise and help you.
To agree with Dave’s comments, I would suggest that you go with a recurve or ref/def longbow (my choice). Get the best bow that you can afford, get set up properly, subscribe to TBM, read, study, and practice. You will never regret it. I have had more enjoyment and satisfaction out of shooting and hunting with a trad bow than anything than I have ever done in the outdoors. Jody
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I switched from a BowTech Tomcat to a Bear Montana #50 and it was a challenge. But, an enjoyable one. I was shooting Gold Tip 3555 with a 125 payload from the Montana and I am in the process of swithching to wood arrows (and building them from components). So far I have found that the best spine for me is 45-50 with a 5 inch right wing helical fletch still delivering a 125 point. I just ordered a dozen tapered arrrows from Elite Arrows (Paul ?) and I am very much looking forward to them. When I spoke with Paul on the phone and gave him my draw length and such he asked if I minded if he took some liberties with my order, as based on my draw length and bow poundage. So, I said “no problem, go ahead”.
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I agree with the above posts on the switch, recurve to the Hill maybe not be a big switch,but from a compound it will be a BIG change! I would recomend that you try to shoot some differant type of longbows and poundages before you buy! As to poundages I have 2 50lb@28 D-styles and my Bama Royal Relflex/Deflex is a 46@28 found that my 46lb R/D is a lot more forgiving), I shoot POC woods out of all three 65/70 with 145pts and broadheads, arrows hit extremely hard and fly great, I also chop all my feathers, 5 inch banana cuts or 5 inch Traditional shape! good luck on your Traditional journey soon your wheel bow will just be a memory! LOL
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Thanks! seen that you use Bama Bows. I found out that Nathaniel lives about 2 hours away, contacted him and can meet with him and try some of his bows. NICE stuff! Now i am headed in the right direction to be able to see and try the bow before buying, especially since this will be my first longbow.
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I second you Ripforce on the Bama bows! Nate had been a really pleasure to work with, and very patient with all of my questions. A review of my Expi 62 can be found elsewhere on this site.
Based on all of the very insightful information and recommendations found throughout Tradbow fro folks like Ripforce and Limblover, I decided to buy a from Nate sight unseen. I would not hesitate to make the same recommendation to others as my experience before, during, and after has been fantastic.
As for bow shapes and their performance, the reflex/deflex design seems to be very forgiving of my humble shooting abilities, as opposed to my recurve I started with first.
Hopefully this helps,
Mudd foot
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Years ago i foudn deal on a compound shot it a while and stopped shootign. i then got the bug again and bought a compound and a martin longbow. i took both to the range an shot the compound pretty well i coul barely hit the bales with the long bow. i was hooked took the compound back to the shop and sold it on consignment. Ive been a recurve and longbow shooter ever since my favorite being Hill style longbows which i no have seven of made by differen builders.
Start at a lower poundage like the 50# and work up you dont want to over bow yourself. i shoot longbows from55# up to 80# depending on my conditioning ive been hurt a lot and seem to be constantly recovering from motorcycle injuries or reinjuries. Theres just something about shooting a longbow nothing else comes close if you get hooked.
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