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    • grumpy
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        Beenthinking about this for a while…

        When working on slate roofs, I would be working along looking at the roof, paying attention to what I was doing, and doing my best not to fall of and die… Kinda thing that takes a lot of concentration. Every so often I would look up and be eye to eye with someone. The homeowner standing in his yard, a neighbor looking out a second/third floor window at me, another contractor spying on me with binocs. For the first 5 years I dismissed it as coincidence… But it happened just too often to call coincedence. Besides after a while I would know someone was there, and know who it was (if I knew the person) without looking up. Kinda freeky.

        My question is: Do deer have that sense? Will it work if a deer is looking at me? What if the deer is looking at me, but dosn’t know it is me? Will I know he/she is there? I read somewhere NOT to look the deer in the eyes, or he will know you are there even if he cannot spot you.

      • Doc Nock
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          That’s some high level musing ya got goin on there, Grumpy!

          I’m sure we once had senses we’ve lost over eons of city living and not survival oriented.

          As for wild critters, I SWEAR I’ve watched animals and they’re totally relaxed…and then out of nowhere, not downwind or anything, but their body posture changes and it’s almost like you can see the hair on their back stand up…like the hair on your neck when you sense something awry.

          As thou, they can “feel your eyes on them”. I used to watch them more from my peripheral vision, and it wouldn’t happen, but if I stared at an animal head on…it was like radar picked me up and they’d tense, turn and look me right in the eye and bolt!

        • Bruce Smithhammer
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            What we now refer to as ‘sixth sense’ is just a hint of how much more heightened our senses used to be, when daily survival required it. Trust it, nurture it.

          • 1shot
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              The sixth sense of animals is something I find amazing, how they can appear to read my intent at times, during scouting out of season, I can get close to Deer and have even talked to them without them spooking off (Yeah, kinda crazy I know hehehe), but let me have a Bow in hand and they seem to know there is danger around them even when they dont pick me out… Coues being the most high-strung, wary critter I’ve ever Hunted…

              I’m a Roofer also Grumpy, working Slate is a dying art, Kudos to you…

              A humans “sixth sense” is a real and powerfull “skill” that I have seen and experienced in some sketchy situations where one persons “gut-feeling” determined a possitive outcome (for us anyway)…

            • Doc Nock
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                1shot wrote: The sixth sense of animals is something I find amazing, how they can appear to read my intent at times, during scouting out of season, I can get close to Deer and have even talked to them without them spooking off (Yeah, kinda crazy I know hehehe), but let me have a Bow in hand and they seem to know there is danger around them even when they dont pick me out… Coues being the most high-strung, wary critter I’ve ever Hunted…

                Seen that or had that experience, too, SH. I sometimes wondered if it were that when hunting season rolls around, the woods fill up with human stink and it puts them on alert…or indeed, that just our posture changes and they SENSE our predatory intent???

                The latter would explain how a farmer can walk by deer and not spook them, but put a different person in that same situation, with a weapon…and all hell breaks loose.

                I did read once where a farmer marveled at deer eating close to his barn every night & wouldn’t spook when he walked to the house after milking…but once, he forgot something and had to make a 2nd trip and they blew and bolted outa there? Timing? Conditioning to only ONE harmless trip and when that pattern was broken, all hell broke loose???

                I truly believe that critters pattern US a lot faster/better than we ever pattern them! Their lives depend on it!

              • Bruce Smithhammer
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                  Animals definitely sense “intent” from what I’ve seen. Just watch prey animals when a predator comes into range. Sometimes, they’ll pay it no mind. Other times, they’ll be in the next county the minute they sense it. They somehow know when that predator is hungry and hunting, versus when it is just passing through. Not hard to imagine that they pick up on the same clues when we are in their environment.

                  I saw this on NPR this morning – another example of what we might attribute to ‘sixth sense?’

                  Secrets Of Snow-Diving Foxes

                  “…foxes have “a magnetic sense.” Not only can they see, hear, touch, taste and smell like we do, they’ve got an extra gift. They can sense the Earth’s magnetic field. There are birds, sharks, turtles and ants that can do the same thing. But the fox is the first animal we know of to use this sense to hunt.”

                • grumpy
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                    Awesome, Mr. Hammer.

                    I want to be a fox too. In face I wish IT would work for mr all of the time. On a slate roof, I am in a life endergering situation, and know it. All of my senses are hyper, and I go into a kind of “zone.” No arthritus, astame, joint achs, headach, etc. I know things I don’t know.. Or rather my hands, legs arms do things I don’t have to think about, everything comes together. I did this for 15 years. Wasn’t like that at first, but I think that is why I survived. Never mind about the recovery after I came off the roof… Unfortunatly I grew up in a disfunctional family and went to the woods to escape, thus I still (omg after half a century) feel more relaxed outside, and in the wooods. So it is NOT going to work while hunting. There is no control over this, and I would like sooooo much to be able to call it up at will.. On the other hand the deer (or whatever) knows he is in a life threatening situation, thus is hyper alert, and dosn’t have stuff like logic, self awareness, etc to interfere with instincts, so I feel like I’m vastly inferior (dispite this high forhead and the frontal cortex behind it). HOW CAN i EVER SUCCEED AT THIS?

                  • Fallguy
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                      It’s the vibes man.:wink: I am always amazed when I watch the nature shows on Africa. The plains animals all know when the lion is hungry and when he is full. They always keep 1 eye on the lion but they seem to know when he is seriously hunting or just window shopping.

                    • William Warren
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                        I’m with Smithammer that we all possess the ability for heightened senses. Some have just let theirs fade away. Just yesterday morning the wife and I were having breakfast when I said someone is here. None of us had heard anything, not even our dog. She says how do you know and I said I saw a reflection briefly on the wall and my brain interpreted it as a cause for attention. I looked out the window and sure enough it was Mom and my nephew coming over to visit. My wife admitted seeing the reflection also but apparently her thought processes did not tell her it needed attention like mine did.

                      • strait-aero
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                          I know what you guys mean…..sometimes you don’t hear or see anything,but you sense the deer is there,and you carefully scan the area,and there they are. Wayne

                        • skinner biscuit
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                            I was clearing brush and trimming up trees on my property,and I kept getting a creepy feeling something was watching me.A few days later I get this on my trail cam….Makes you wonder.

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