Rayzr Feathers…

[lyagooshka]

#4055

Hello all,

Does anyone use or know of the Gateway 2″ Rayzr Tre Camo Feathers? When my bow had training wheels, I used to use short high vanes. The idea is pretty much the same as a keel on a sailboat. Deep and short is more stable than shallow and long. I am currently using 5.5″ banana fletchings (shallow and long). They seem to work (it’s me that needs adjustment 😳 ), but I wanted to try something new. I was just worried if the deflection off of the shelf would be too much for any benefit of stabilization, especially at 10 yards. Also, does anyone put these (or any other feathers) more than 1/2″ forward of the nock? How does it work? How far?

Thanks,

Alex

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[jmsmithy]

#29547

Hey Alex

In my wheelbows days I shot 2.5-3″ feathers and got great flight w broadheads out to 50 yards and beyond w my Matthews, shooting Easton A/C/E’s. Now I shoot either Beman MFX 400 or GrizzlyStik Alaskans ( depending on bow ) with 5″ lw parabolics and also get great flight (once I’m tuned! 👿 ).

I have been looking at Dr Ed’s studies utilizing his A&A fletching which appears similar to what your saying. I don’t know enough to explain it to you and have not YET tried it but it utilizes ( if I recall correctly ) short, high fletching meant to stabilize broadhead on a well tuned arrow.

There certainly are folks here WAY more knowledgeable on this topic who I’m sure can jump into the conversation.

Good luck 8)

[SUSAN]

#40509

As crazy as this sounds, I get great flight using 3, 2″ Blazer vanes on my arrows. This includes 2016 aluminums, and carbons too. I shoot them cock feather in, and I think the reason they shoot so well is that the vane is so short it is nowhere near the arrow rest as it passes (paradox). I prefer feathers aesthetically, and will always shoot them. But in the rain, I will carry the Blazers. This experiment has also made me try shorter feather fletching I have gone from 5″ to 3″ — and it works great as well. It is especially helpful since you used to be able to get 2 5″ fletches out of one feather, but these days the feathers are not as long. I can often get 3 of the 3″ fletches out of one feather with my chopper. Blazers are relatively cheap, too.

[jmsmithy]

#50518

Hey Huntryx

What’s ur arrow set up length, broadhead weight etc. typically I’m shooting approx 29.5″ GrizStik Alaskans or Beman MFX 11gpi w 315gr field points / Ashby broadheads…

[lyagooshka]

#50852

I hope to get my broadheads in the mail soon. They look almost exactly like the Alaskans. They are 125 gr. I will have to see how they work. I just dug up some old 175 gr. heads, but they are barbed. I believe they are OK to use here, but not in other states. I am almost out of my 5.5″ banana fletchings, so I was going to try the Rayzrs, but they only come in packs of 100. Not sure if I want to commit. Anyway, thank you both for the input. Be well.

Alex

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[Leo Carrisalez]

#51240

lyagooshka wrote: . I am almost out of my 5.5″ banana fletchings, so I was going to try the Rayzrs,

Alex

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do find the bananas to be a bit noisy? Ive shot bananas and they make this Whizzing sound. My AA fletching are silent

[lyagooshka]

#52069

It’s funny you mention it, but yes, I do find they make a noise. It took me a while since I was only shooting out to 10 yards. When I started to go beyond that on the range, I noticed the whizzing noise. I went out to the 60 yard target and loosed an arrow and it madenthe sound the whole way there. Other than that, I like the way they look and they seem to work great. Be well.

Alex

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[SUSAN]

#52968

Just got the time to answer your question. I have several arrow setups, for different bows. I use blazers or 3″ feathers on all of them:

1-At the moment I am hunting with a Morrison ILF Recurve (foam/carbon limbs, AMO 58″ 43@28). The arrows are Grizzlystik Sitkas,brass inserts, cut to 29″ with 75g steel adapters and STOS 135g 2 bladed heads. I use Tradlite Carbons interchangably with this setup.

2-I also shoot GT 3555s and/or 2016s (29″) with my Pronghorn TD, 44#@28″, and a Wild Horse Creek, 43#@28. I use Wensel Woodsman heads, 125 g with 100g steel adapters up front.

3-I also shoot 1916s and 3555s from a 62″ Morrison Shawnee (40#@28, carbon/foam)and from a Thunderchild (41#@28) with Grizzly 125s mounted on 75g adapters.

4- I also have a Bob Lee TD Longbow (41#@28″) which will handle any of the above.

All combos shoot well with Blazers (3-fletch, cock feather in) or with 3″ feathers.

[lyagooshka]

#61887

South Texas wrote: do find the bananas to be a bit noisy? Ive shot bananas and they make this Whizzing sound. My AA fletching are silent

ST, I just had an interesting experience. I made another set of arrows, this time with more weight up front. I shot at the broadhead range and had the same sound. It was sort of a “FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-T” sound in flight, even at really close range (10 yards). I just accepted it as being the banana fletchings and went on since I didn’t think there was much I could do. Next day I didn’t want to bother with the broadhead range, so I just went to the regular target range. I got 125gr field points (I am using 125gr broadheads) and took a few shots. Silence! I went all the way out to 60 yards (mistake on my part as it cost me an arrow) and still nothing. Actually, even at the cost of an arrow, it was pretty cool to see an arrow arc in flight, especially one that I had made. Anyway, I want to see if I can mix and match points to get rid of the sound. Funny thing is, I remember my prior set of arrows making the sound, even with field points, only difference is about 85gr on the tip. Anyone have any suggestions / similar experiences? Be well.

Alex

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[Leo Carrisalez]

#62074

lyagooshka wrote: [quote=South Texas]do find the bananas to be a bit noisy? Ive shot bananas and they make this Whizzing sound. My AA fletching are silent

Next day I didn’t want to bother with the broadhead remember my prior set of arrows making the sound, even with field points, only difference is about 85gr on the tip. Anyone have any suggestions / similar experiences? Be well.

Alex

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I just might try adding some weight. Interesting find.

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