Opinions and advice on arrow setup

[Rocks]

#5471

Looking for some advice as a newbie…

First of all I’m working at a remote location in the bush in northern BC and will be for most of the next couple months, and rarely get to go to town. I’ve got a bow coming in about a month, and once I get it I will make a trip into the local sporting goods store to tune it and try some arrows out. They have a limited selection of arrows and broadheads so I have to get them to order some supplies in to have ready for me to try out, they are setup with a range.

They are one of the Canadian suppliers of ABS gear, so I will try out the grizzlystiks along with whatever else they have for arrows.

My bow will be a 52#@28″, about 54-55# at my draw length.

I will be huting deer, elk and moose with it next fall, maybe mtn lion and for sure wolves this winter.

I was looking at the Ashby head from ABS and was wondering if it would be a good head for my setup and the game I’m chasing? If so I will get them to order some (along with some 315gr field tips) so I can try them out in-store.

I’ve gotten alot of good info off this site and am working through Dr. Ashby’s reports.

Thanks!

[rayborbon]

#41229

Whatever you choose … if you get a wolf down with that bow and some arrows I want to see.

[David Petersen]

#42363

Rocks — The ABS Ashby is arguably the premiere big game head on the market. Its “downsides” are cost and extreme hardness of the steel, making sharpening a challenge for many of us. Check out Dr. Ashby’s advice on sharpening hard-steel single-bevels here in the Ashby Library. I shot one through a bull elk scapula this year. It blew open a big hole with a hinge of bone and went on to penetrate 18 inches … a 45 degree angle shot from 15 yards. The point came through without a scratch. dave

[Rocks]

#42465

Ray – I’m looking forward to getting the bow out this winter, any successes I have I’ll be sure to post pics.

Thanks David, yes they’re expensive, but they seem like they would last a guy a long time as long as you don’t lose them (ouch!). I have been reading the Doc’s stuff there’s some great info in it.

One thing I was wondering is tuning my bow and shafts with a 315gr head, doesn’s seem to leave a lot of room to fiddle qround with weight wise up front. Might be easier to get some heads in the 150-200gr range and a bunch of adapters of different weights to juggle if need be?

[Ed Ashby]

#42516

Rock, the Grizzly Stiks were designed from the ground up for one thing, hunting the bigger game. That means designed for the heavier broadheads too. I think you’ll find them among the easiest shafts to tune, just be sure to start with the shaft appropriate for your bow weight, draw length and the BH weight range you decode to use, then follow the directions. If you’re uncertain as to which specific shaft to start with for your bow, draw length and BH, just give Ed Schilef a call. I’ve never met Ed, but he seems very knowledgable of his product and is very, very helpful.

With a heavy head on a Grizzly Stik your arrow will end up somewhere in the EFOC range. If you want Ultra-EFOC (without well over a thousand grains of mass) then you’ll need to work something up starting with a lighter weight shaft. For what it’s worth, for carbon shafts that are not reinforced with an Internal Footing, the Grizzly Stik has the lowest damage rate of any I’ve tested. That might be a major consideration if your going to be ‘remote’ for a while.

Ed

[Rocks]

#42669

Sounds good Doc, thanks for the advice. I’ll talk to Ed (called him but he’s hunting til Nov 2) and see what he can set me up with.

Mark

[Chris Shelton]

#42803

cant argue with daves success on his elk! I can say that I have stayed with beeman and easton shafts for my career, with a slight stray into carbon express. you couldnt go wrong with beeman ICS bowhunters, or beeman mfx classics. Axis shafts are decent, alittle light. But hey that is just my opinion, and I agree that if you get a wolf with your stick you need to show us:D!!
happy hunting
chris

[Patrick]

#42830

I can vouch for the ABS Grizzly Stiks. I’ve not ruined one yet and I’ve made some pretty solid hits…on trees, heavy rubber mats, etc.:lol:, with no splits. I’ve done the same with other arrows and they’ve split right on the end.

I have Ashby broadheads on order, but he’s way behind, production wise.:(

Here’s an example of a GrizzlyStik after a pretty violent encounter. The tip of the field tip completely smashed and the insert popped out some, but the arrow is fine:

Sorry about the excessively large size, I’ll resize when I get access to a pc

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