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My wife says I can be uncharitable sometimes (actually, she’s more specific about my shortcomings, but I won’t bore you with the details). So I’ll just post this link and keep my pie-hole shut…
http://www.3riversarchery.com/Stone+Age+Screw-In+Broadheads_i6611_baseitem.html
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Maybe the guys who reviewed the Three Wolves tee shirt can get this dialed in.
ThreeRivers has been good to me over the years but they sell a couple of broadheads that are very questionable.
The Scmeisser, the Badger and the Zwickey Cliff are all designed with a sort of barb. I don’t think 3rivers should even offer them. This new one is quite something.
One thing I try to remember is that every bad design started out as somebody’s “good” idea. 💡 best, dwc
Ps. Paleo, nailed it.
Pps. Wonder what bare shafting those would look like.
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Paleo – Maybe it would take someone from Colorado, Oregon, Washington… to come up with such a contraption. Good wit! Wish I had thought of that one.
I just can’t figure what would motivate someone to buy such a thing. It’s like going to disney and thinking you are getting outdoors.
Stone point screwed into carbon arrow. It’s like hitching your Lamborghini to a horse and pulling it though town. It’s like dressing your supermodel wife in a feed sack.
It’s a smidge conflicted if you ask me. Before buying this, a person should sit down with their inner yoda and have a pow wow.
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This is joke, yes?
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DAve,
Not up on the current changing mindset of the PGC, but even several of the Simmons heads, with the trailing endge not brazed to the ferrule, were considered BARBED and that was a No-NO in PA!
Fads come and hopefully—go. People in biz today are there to make money… that is why I appreciate the free-enterprise system. I vote with my feet!
I’ve seen old BH collections with some that had dual corkscrew cutting edges and all sorts of wild designs. Creativity might just mean that some bizarre things find their way to market…
Consumer discretion is all that is required. Don’t like- Don’t buy!
Things that do NOT sell don’t last long in today’s world!
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Oh…I got passionate feelings galore on topics like this, but as we all discussed on another thread, tolerance dictates we allow individuals to go their own path, just try to encourage with sound reasoning.
So far, we’ve not given much input as to why that style head leaves some of us chilled. Personally, it looks a bit “fragile” to me… Same reason I would avoid expandable heads–too fragile when the chips are down and bone encountered or the myriad of other things that CAN (and DO) go wrong at the moment of impact, regardless of how cautious we try to be. That, and how does one reknap those side pieces? I NAP very well, but can’t KNAP to save my soul. So I’d pass just cause I have…HAVE to shoot a hunting arrow and then resharpen to feel right… how would I do that?
Being this is a commercial site, free to us guys and gals to use and have camaraderie, I “eschew” to air too much of my personal passions on this topic by a advertiser, for those who bring us this forum.
Need a new application of “super hide glue”… 😯
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paleoman wrote: Stoners are only legal in Co. I heard…
Nah they are also trying to puff away in WA state but I hear the experiment is going up in smoke.:lol:
The head looks weird with the screw in part, you could always put these on the woodgrain carbons and now say totally modern trad.
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I am a little disappointed in Three Rivers for letting this sneak through their system and actually be something they would offer. 😥
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Steve Graf wrote: I just can’t figure what would motivate someone to buy such a thing. It’s like going to disney and thinking you are getting outdoors.
Stone point screwed into carbon arrow. It’s like hitching your Lamborghini to a horse and pulling it though town. It’s like dressing your supermodel wife in a feed sack.
It’s a smidge psycho if you ask me. Before buying this, a person should sit down with their inner yoda and have a pow wow.
:lol::lol:
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Now, Steve… I’m with you on the sports car analogy, but hell’s bells, boy! IF…IF I had a supermodel wife, I’d dang sure dress her in feed sacks afore I let her outside… :shock::roll:
One for her head too so’s not to show the danged bumps on her noggin from the club I hit her on the head with, to get her in my nest in the first place… :oops::roll::evil:
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I hope they offer a screw-in adapter for woodies.
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I just read the caption under the broadhead. They’re actually suggesting you hunt with the thing. That’s crazy. dwc
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Perhaps those of you who are “customers” of 3R could contact them with your disappointment with this product and similar BH designs???
Feedback from customers is critical to future choices! Airing grievances here on a forum by a mag that 3R advertises on, isn’t going to git er done.
I have my own reasons for NOT being a 3R customer… varied and personal, so my direct input wouldn’t matter…
Just FWIW… let it be heard where it does some good. Dale needs to know that his constituency finds offerings bizarre! Or worse!
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Well said, Doc. I thought of that last night. I haven’t had need to purchase much from them for a while, but I did when I first started. They did offer good service to me, both with products and especially with advice. It’s best to be direct. Thanks, dwc
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Just looked at the link “LOL” thats all i have to say LOL
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Personally, I think we should just let nature run its course here.
Consider the effect on breeding success for the purchasers of these. To the extent they actually attempt to use them, it will reduce the likelihood of bringing any meat home. In addition, the money spent (at $27 a pop!) will not be available to buy food otherwise. This nutritional deficit will result in smaller and less frequent litters.
And perhaps even greater is the effect on the ability to attract and hold the interest of the opposite sex: “You spent WHAT on those?”
Over time, natural selection will take care of this.
Finally, if they do actually succeed in reproducing, their offspring will most likely reflect on the purchase choice and say to themselves, “WTH was he (or in the rare case, she) thinking when buying these?” and will be quite unlikely to follow the example set.
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How anout we chip in, buy one and let Clay or Smithhammer do a video review complete with bareshafting and roadkill penetration tests.
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dwcphoto wrote: How about we chip in, buy one and let Clay or Smithhammer do a video review complete with bare shafting and roadkill penetration tests.
Dave,
While both light-hearted and humorous, it doesn’t send the message we need Dale to get… But I like the concept well enough…:lol::D:roll:
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Doc, I appreciate your views. We get our laughs where we can and really I’m not trying to be mean spirited. I did send Dale and Sandie an email with my concerns about this broadhead, as I did about the barbed style of the Cliff Zwickey head back in January, 2013. I think it’s important to be direct and I also think poking a little fun is relevant to something like this. 3Rivers has been a great asset to our community in my view. I also think they can handle a little ribbing now and then. I can’t image they didn’t see some of that coming when they posted that head for sale.
Thanks, dwc
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Thanks, Doc. It’s nice to know that once is a while a smile follows. Dale and Sandie will probably write back. They have always been attentive to any need or concern that I expressed, either with something I bought or, as in this case, never will buy. Another example of the good folks we usually encounter in this trad world. best, dwc
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[quote=”dwcphoto”
One thing I try to remember is that every bad design started out as somebody’s good idea. 💡 best, dwc
There are no bad ideas, just good ideas that don’t work. In my shop I had a big pile of good ideas that didn’t work. AKA a scrap pile.
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Yep, and the scrap pile is just spare parts for the next one… dwc
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dwcphoto wrote: How anout we chip in, buy one and let Clay or Smithhammer do a video review complete with bareshafting and roadkill penetration tests.
Road Kill Penetration test LMAO LOVED IT
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Well ya gotta give em an “A” for ingenuity. It’s got SOME traditional materials in it, sort of.
I like the “great for replica arrows” comment. Wonder what tribe used screw in heads. My ancestors had to tie theirs on.
Look how long it took Edison to come up with a working light bulb. Give them about 20 years and they might use steel.
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