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    • Troy Breeding
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        Now to introduce the latest of my quest to see how far FOC can go… “GODZILLA”

      • Bruce Smithhammer
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        • Troy Breeding
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          • Ed Ashby
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              I’m not nearly as crazy as I thought I was!

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                • Ed Ashby
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                    Just how big is it?

                  • Troy Breeding
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                      Can’t help myself.

                      Still wasn’t happy with the way King Kong was shooting. It would shot fine when I did my part right. I even switched the field point for a broadhead and it flew right on, as long as I did my part.

                      Still not totally being happy, I made a new heavier point to see if it would change things. On this point I added another 200grs to see what it would do.

                      Well, now everything is back to the way I’m used to seeing shafts fly.

                      Anyway, after shooting it several times it was easy to see the shaft was weak. So it was off to the saw.

                      Made a cut and went back to shooting. It took several cuts and a lot of shooting to bring the shaft into a fair tune.

                      Only problem now is the shaft is down to 29-1/16″. Thats as short as I can shoot without pulling the “long” point back onto the shelf.

                      To help I took the point back to the bow room and removed the adpt and ground alittle weight off it. I took the weight from 278grs to 250grs.

                      After allowing the glue to dry I tried it again. Flight was better, but now the wind has picked up and with this setup just about any wind really screws with the flight. It would shoot with a slight tail left until the cross wind would catch it and then the tail would swing right. Impact spot was right where I was aiming, but talk about crazy flight.

                      I’ve got the shaft fletched now and will try it fletched to see how it does before doing anything else. I can always lighten the point alittle more if needed.

                      Now for the unreal news:::::

                      I’m hoping the arrow flies correct now that it’s fletched…

                      Total weight: 1565grs

                      Shhhhhhh,,, BHFOC : 49.78%

                      Unreal!!!!

                      Troy

                    • Troy Breeding
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                        Forgot to say,

                        The Shhhhhhh,, BHFOC on the bearshaft was 50.09%

                        After fletching with four 2″ A&A feathers the FOC dropped to 49.78%

                        Troy

                      • Ed Ashby
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                          Setting the benchmark for UEFOC? I think it should be callied the “Dolly”. 😀

                        • Troy Breeding
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                            Already beat you to it!!!

                            Made an osage selfbow afew years back that was made using sister billets. Both billets had a large purtruding knot on the back of the billets. Once they were put together you could hold bow horozonal and, well you get the picture….:D:D

                            Troy

                          • Troy Breeding
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                              Here are afew pics of the new arrow.

                              Full length view

                              Four fletching

                              As you can see the balance is right at the end of the shafts footing

                              The point is alittle longer than normal

                            • pewanogo
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                                All this is very interesting and looks like the science and such is fascinating but are you really going to hunt with these arrows and if so what?

                              • Troy Breeding
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                                  pewanogo wrote: All this is very interesting and looks like the science and such is fascinating but are you really going to hunt with these arrows and if so what?

                                  These arrows, anything from the ‘Airhammer” till now are quite useable for hunting and may very well be used one day.

                                  I’ve run the figures for point of deminishing return in the allowable energy of my current bow and it shows that approx. 800-825grs to be my top weight producing the best amount of momentum. Even though these heavier arrows will produce higher amounts of momentum the allowable energy of my bow has peaked at 825grs.

                                  The ‘Airhammer”, “Fronkinsteen’, “King Kong”, and now “Godzilla” are just to see if super high amounts of FOC can be made shootable. As you can see they do work. I’d just need a heavier weight bow to make them productive.

                                  Troy

                                • kingwouldbe
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                                    Amazing Troy, absolutely amazing.

                                  • Troy Breeding
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                                      King,

                                      This is a sad, sad day…:cry:

                                      “King Kong”/”Godzilla” gave up the ghost this morning.

                                      Been waiting for a calm morning to shoot a little more and this morning proved to be the day. Temps are in the mid to upper 50’s and the wind was only 1-2mph out of the west. This allowed me to shoot into a very slight headwind rather than a cross wind.

                                      Anyway, for some reason I flentched on a shot and pulled off target. Needless to say, right behind my target is a very large limestone bolder. Guess what I hit?

                                      Yea, head on with no give. The point end of the shaft held up fine. However, it blew out the nock and just splintered the heckout of the last two inches of “King Kong”/”Godzilla”.

                                      Didn’t even brad the point that bad.

                                      I pulled the point and insert, stripped the fletching then put the nock (which I did find) back in the point end, taped up the splinters with masking tape and gave it the final shot down throught the woods.

                                      It’s a sad, sad day….:cry:

                                      Troy

                                    • kingwouldbe
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                                        So, in the end, it was only a legend, like the Yeti & Bigfoot, brief sightings, yet no proof 😯

                                        I look forward to the next sighting of Kong & Godzilla

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                                      • Ed Ashby
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                                          ‘Served a Na’Leans send off.

                                        • kingwouldbe
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                                            lol

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                                          • Troy Breeding
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                                              Kingwouldbe wrote: lol

                                              Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!! Brother you must be a mind reader!!!

                                              “King Kong” Lives,,,, Again

                                              Since I couldn’t handle looseing such a weard arrow I started over. This time I had a better idea what is needed.

                                              The shaft was made exactly the same as before, but the end results came out a little different.

                                              The last shaft started out tailing right as though it was stiff. After making a cut (since it shouldn’t have been stiff) I found that it shot better. I then made another cut. This time the shaft shot great as long as I did my part. I even shot it unfletched with a broadhead and it flew as well as “Fronkinsteen”.

                                              However, this time when I started out the shaft shot tail left (weak).

                                              I cut and shot, then cut and shot again. I did this several times until the shaft flew clean.

                                              Once it was shooting clean I noticed it was 29″. At first I thought I must have put on the wrong point. The point I used on “King Kong” 978grs. The point I used to make “Godzilla” was 1150grs.

                                              I checked the point and sure enough it was the “King Kong” point. Can’t figure out what the heck the difference is. It must have something to do with the shaft.

                                              Anyway, the new “King Kong” finished out weighing 1370grs. It has and FOC of 47% right on the money (after fletching). I fletched it with four 2″ A&A fleathers.

                                              Normally I only use a three fletch, but I kinda like this new look of four fletch.

                                              “King Kong” Lives,,,,,,, Again

                                              Troy

                                            • Ed Ashby
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                                                Rising from the ashes

                                              • Bruce Smithhammer
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                                                  “The Edge… there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over.”

                                                  – Hunter S. Thompson

                                                • William Warren
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                                                    Dr. Ed Ashby wrote:

                                                    Rising from the ashes

                                                    Ah, yes. The flight of the Phoenix!

                                                    Kong is no more!

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