making carbons heavy

[jason samkowiak]

#5641

here is a little video that shows a great way to make carbon arrows heavy. I have been doing thsi with carbons and aluminum shafts for over 10 years. Its affordable, tested, proven, and works great. Thought I would share it.

[sinawalli]

#45992

Interesting! Will have to give that a whirl! Thanks!

[James Harvey]

#46207

Jason that looks like a really clever and elegant idea. I’ve made the leap from 11.5 gpi shafts to 9.5 in search of FOC but if ever I find myself going the other way I’ll be using that. Thanks for sharing.

Jim

[coastalbendbows]

#46280

in order for this to work correctly you have to burn the ends of the rope so it will feed into the arrow or else it will fray out. Dont ask me how I know this; Yes i tried it without burning the ends

Shawn

[Cameron Unruh]

#46308

I also agree that this is an effective way to get the overall weight of the arrow up. Years ago I used this method when I was shooting Aluminum arrows I then switched to Carbon and used to strans of 550 para cord twisted together and burnt together on one end. This worked great as well. However…in the last couple of years I pulled out all the cordage and replaced that weight for upfront weight. I am at about the same overall weight but more up front and for me I am happier with the arrow flight and from what I hear I should have better penetration. I am hoping to have a personal story to share in the next couple of weeks as to a pass through shot on a Buck as I am in the midst of Archery only season here in California.I did have a pass through on a medium size pig at just short of 20 yards.

[jpcarlson]

#46555

You boys need to read Doc Ashby’s studies about FOC. Heavier overall shaft weight isn’t nearly as advantageous as adding that weight up front!

J

[jason samkowiak]

#46610

jpcarlson wrote: You boys need to read Doc Ashby’s studies about FOC. Heavier overall shaft weight isn’t nearly as advantageous as adding that weight up front!

J

Great study! read it many times. but in order to get a 740 grain carbon arrow without shaft weight (rope) you would need to find a 300 grain glue on head. not an option that I know of. currently use a goldtip 33/55 shaft, 100grain brass insert, 100 grain steel broadhead adapter, 140 grain magnus head, 150 grains of rope. gives me 740 overall. no rope gives me 600 grains, a great weight but I want heavier for my own personal reasons. if magnus or similar style glue on head becomes available in a 300 grain glue on and it doesn’t end up being too much foc I will for sure go that route. but you are most definitely correct that more FOC weight the better.

[James Harvey]

#46696

jasonsamko wrote: you would need to find a 300 grain glue on head. not an option that I know of.

Jason, I have exactly 740 grains in my new setup and 440 of that is in the head 😉 Check out the Tuffheads: http://www.tuffhead.com/broadheads/tuffhead%20main.html

Like I said earlier, I dropped from an 11.2 gpi 340 shaft to a 9.5 gpi 300 shaft to use the Tuffheads because the old ones were too heavy/weak spined. If you’re interested in Ashby stuff, have a look in the Friends of FOC forum, lots of info in there 😀

[jason samkowiak]

#47151

Jason, I have exactly 740 grains in my new setup and 440 of that is in the head 😉 Check out the Tuffheads: http://www.tuffhead.com/broadheads/tuffhead%20main.html

Like I said earlier, I dropped from an 11.2 gpi 340 shaft to a 9.5 gpi 300 shaft to use the Tuffheads because the old ones were too heavy/weak spined. If you’re interested in Ashby stuff, have a look in the Friends of FOC forum, lots of info in there :D[/

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Thanks for that info. I new about tuff heads but did not know they make a 300 grain. Thanks again.

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