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Has anyone out there had this disease? And, did it present with the “bullseye” type rash if so? Just curious on any experiences with it. I’ve become a big fan of treating my outdoor clothes with permethrin in an attempt to keep the rotten things off my hide.
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NOt been diagnosed… but the Lyme test has had a bad rep for false NEGATIVE (saying you don’t when you do have it)
Numerous close friends of all ages have had it… Most didn’t show a bullseye and were mis-diagnosed for a good while.
Older lady had it BAD… treated, but then it “returned”.
I checked my rheumatology doc…she tells me that “return flare ups” is a misnomer —they now know (believe?)…BUT… (here’s the ugly part): The DAMAGE that the Lyme spirochete does to our bodies, the ailments it creates, can continue and recycle for a long, long time in a debilitating way. Apparently, that is a new bit of research… none of the bugs in your blood to be found, but the damage/ailments flare up over time. Prevention is your best recourse!
I’ve been a fan of Permethrin for a long time. I even got some of Happy Jack’s Kennel Dip @ Tractor Supply, it’s a water based tick repellant and I found a dilution ratio and make my own spray… I’m sure it doesn’t LAST like the stuff you buy from Repel or Culliston, but hey… I’m just treating clothes more often before I wear the duds.
I spray face mask, head net, gloves, coat, hat, socks, pants, vests—everything and then air line dry… and I’ve noticed skeeters come in, hover and then vamoose while on stand. Love that stuff!
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No but my wife was miss diagnosed with it about 6 months ago–long story made short–blood test said yes–3 bouts of antibiotic and still positive—then we went to a specialist. After 2 hour interview she said–well you don’t have Lyme, your blood test clearly shows that (and she did another to confirm). Seems if the doc isn’t experienced they can make a mistake.:shock:
We do a tick check every time we are out there–lots around here. It takes about 3 hours for the little buggers to attach so check every 3 hours–that signal mirror comes in handy for checking those area’s you can’t see:D They are easy to flip up and remove before they attach. Yes it’s a hassle but it’s a better alternative then not being out there or in my opinion using chemicals. Having said all that we have found 3 ticks on us in the last 10 years–3rd one was on me this afternoon after returning from stumping.
Hope this helps.
Mike
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Oh yeah on the permethrin. I’ve not known anyone having Lyme disease here but research shows that some have had it in my county and several around it.
I do know of several people, my brother in Dallas included, who have had West Nile virus which is spread by mosquitoes. It’s bad mocus also.
Permethrin is handy there also but some kind of repellant is necessary in addition.
Like Doc and Mike are stressing, “An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure”.
Believe me, even in our drought we have skeeters and ticks.
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colmike wrote: Paleo
No but my wife was miss diagnosed with it about 6 months ago–long story made short–blood test said yes–3 bouts of antibiotic and still positive—then we went to a specialist. After 2 hour interview she said–well you don’t have Lyme, your blood test clearly shows that (and she did another to confirm). Seems if the doc isn’t experienced they can make a mistake.:shock:
We do a tick check every time we are out there–lots around here. It takes about 3 hours for the little buggers to attach so check every 3 hours–that signal mirror comes in handy for checking those area’s you can’t see:D They are easy to flip up and remove before they attach. Yes it’s a hassle but it’s a better alternative then not being out there or in my opinion using chemicals. Having said all that we have found 3 ticks on us in the last 10 years–3rd one was on me this afternoon after returning from stumping.
Hope this helps.
Mike
Yes, it does help! Anything that helps defeat their attempts does. We had a “bug man”, entomolygist, come speak at one of our Dept. meetings last year. He said there is a Raid product containing permethrin that’s essentially the same ingredients as commercial tick repellent for a lot less and more of it. I’m not sure which one though and haven’t checked it out. Spraying anything that says “Raid” on me though would be something to get past mentally….
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I have had it. Contracted it while living in NJ in the late 80’s. I had a bullseye rash on my thigh. Followed by flu like symptoms. Was being treated for antibitics 1st regimen was for 14 days, then symptoms returned, had to follow up with a 28 day regimen. After that, no return. My father in law not so lucky. He got the rash but not the flu symptoms, so he blew it off. Now suffers from debilitating arthritis. My wife’s uncle also contracted it, and also blew off the rash symptoms. Now has severe heart issues and loss of memory. Walks around with a waist mounted devise the is constantly injecting him with medicine. Has also forgets where he is at, kinda goes into a dementia like state. all of these are the long term effects of lyme disease untreated. I guess I was lucky enough to recognize the rash
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paleoman wrote: [quote=colmike]Paleo
No but my wife was miss diagnosed with it about 6 months ago–long story made short–blood test said yes–3 bouts of antibiotic and still positive—then we went to a specialist. After 2 hour interview she said–well you don’t have Lyme, your blood test clearly shows that (and she did another to confirm). Seems if the doc isn’t experienced they can make a mistake.:shock:
We do a tick check every time we are out there–lots around here. It takes about 3 hours for the little buggers to attach so check every 3 hours–that signal mirror comes in handy for checking those area’s you can’t see:D They are easy to flip up and remove before they attach. Yes it’s a hassle but it’s a better alternative then not being out there or in my opinion using chemicals. Having said all that we have found 3 ticks on us in the last 10 years–3rd one was on me this afternoon after returning from stumping.
Hope this helps.
Mike
Yes, it does help! Anything that helps defeat their attempts does. We had a “bug man”, entomolygist, come speak at one of our Dept. meetings last year. He said there is a Raid product containing permethrin that’s essentially the same ingredients as commercial tick repellent for a lot less and more of it. I’m not sure which one though and haven’t checked it out. Spraying anything that says “Raid” on me though would be something to get past mentally….
There used to be a Raid product with Pyrethrin in it, but I believe the company stopped producing it. I have a can at my camp and it is the only thing I have found that works on the biting Stable flies.
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Don’t forget mans best friend will also benefit from a good dose of frontline or stronghold.
I a week of hiking with the dogs in a very ticky area only had one latch onto a dog and that was dead when I found it.
Steve, that’s about as bad as it can get a lesson to us all.
Mark.
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