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    • Ralph
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        I was watching a show on TV about game wardens in the farthest north eastern state, enough said geographically methinks.

        I kinda like their programs for the most part but… The wardens were assisting a bow hunter, wheel bow, in trying to retrieve a deer that he had shot. They were unsuccessful in that endeavor.

        The warden was asking the guy about the shot, how far was the deer? The guy said about 10 yards. Now comes the part that I bet you don’t know about arrow ballistics.

        The warden informed the guy that 10 yards was too close because the arrow wasn’t going fast enough yet and that arrows increased in speed the farther they traveled (why do we need rocket fuel?).

        So are we thinking about a whole lot of stuff plumb backwards? 😀 Maybe we oughta let the deer not get so close, or maybe we ought to retreat some before we shoot or is this only a characteristic of compound bows? Just wondering.:D

      • Bruce Smithhammer
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          R2 wrote:

          …..The warden informed the guy that 10 yards was too close because the arrow wasn’t going fast enough yet and that arrows increased in speed the farther they traveled (why do we need rocket fuel?).

          So are we thinking about a whole lot of stuff plumb backwards? 😀 Maybe we oughta let the deer not get so close, or maybe we ought to retreat some before we shoot or is this only a characteristic of compound bows? Just wondering.:D

          This is precisely why I always place a chronometer about 50 yards away before I shoot through it. Any reading that I get closer than that is deceptive, since my arrows haven’t reached terminal velocity yet.

          However, given that it takes 50 yards for my arrows to reach a speed of 170 fps, I can usually shoot, put my bow down, run 50 yds. with chrono in hand, set it up in the arrow’s flight path and get out of the way before it passes through. 8)

        • Doc Nock
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            Ummm, boys, Ralph, et al,

            Have you gents taken your MEDS today?

            :shock::roll:8)

          • Ralph
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              Bruce, I been on a search mission on my computer looking for a chrono with a 10′ set of rings so I might get an arrow through it at 50 yds. No luck yet though.

              You purty fast bugger!!! My 69 year old butt might have to use my 40 # recurve to match your feet :wink:.

              What happens if the usually don’t happen?

            • Ralph
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                Hey Doc, you gonna be sniffin paint tomorrow so then you’ll be clued in. Patience my friend.:D

              • Charles Ek
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                  I happened to see the episode in question. As their next door neighbor, I cringed when I heard the statement. If she weren’t so busy with other tasks, I’d fly my physics-teaching PhD sister out here to ‘splain things to the warden.

                  It has been topped recently by a reported assertion by a wildlife trooper in the farthest northern state to a bear hunter that the “28” on the hunter’s bow indicated a draw weight below the legal minimum …

                • Bruce Smithhammer
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                    Doc Nock wrote:

                    Have you gents taken your MEDS today?

                    :shock::roll:8)

                    Yes. That might be the problem.

                    Now if you’ll excuse me, I’m going back to the workshop, where I’m perfecting a design for arrows that lose energy as they leave the bow…

                  • Mark Turton
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                      Ralph, so using ‘farthest north eastern state’ physics your 40# bows just going to to darn fast you’ll need to slow things down and go up to at least 60#

                      I thought 28# was industry standard, where can I get 55″ shaft, anyone?

                      Eidsvolling,’Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.’-Mark Twain, just would not be fair on your sister.

                      Mark. (not Twain, don’t want cause confusion)

                    • Ralph
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                        Man, if I ever get to 28″ draw there’s gonna be some shooting stars!!!!!:D 40#, 400 gr., 28″ arrow. Whoa, it’s gonna be smokin”.

                      • David Bartlett
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                          It was on TV. It must be true!

                          Sad to say it, but I live in said far northern locale! Please believe we are not all like that.

                        • Stephen Graf
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                            pothunter wrote: …Eidsvolling,’Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.’-Mark Twain, just would not be fair on your sister.

                            Mark. (not Twain, don’t want cause confusion)

                            You and Mr. Twain nailed it!

                          • Doc Nock
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                              pothunter wrote: -Mark Twain, just would not be fair on your sister.

                              Mark. (not Twain, don’t want cause confusion)

                              So….you have a Sister???? HOw old, She married? Like to hunt!?:shock::roll:

                            • Ben M.
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                                Dang, well… I guess we all make mistakes. I sure am glad none of mine have ever gone viral on the internet.

                              • Mark Turton
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                                  Were I a Buddhist I would claim that I was, I am and I have, sadly I’m not.

                                  At the same time not wishing to disrespect Mr Twain whom I think would be a most entertaining guest at the campfire.

                                  Doc, you’ll like my sister I’ve passed on your e-mail address, she’ll be sure to drop you a line when she gets out, back.

                                  Mark.

                                • Bruce Smithhammer
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                                    This thread might just take the cake for the “highest amount of hilarious tangents in the least amount of posts” that I can recall.

                                  • Col Mike
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                                      So that explains all lost arrows—they achieved escape velocity:shock:. Makes you wonder if we are all responsible for that space junk that they made a movie about.

                                      Seriously, I think all of you should run for Congress and Steve for President. He can nominate mom for Sec. State she is defiantly qualified for that job.

                                      Doc–I think your post was in error– Eids has the sister not pothunter. You ask the wrong brother around here and your likely to get a shotgun in the face:D

                                      Not sure about tangents, ricochets more likely.

                                      To much fun

                                      Mike

                                    • Ralph
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                                        Told ya Doc was sniffin paint today. 😀

                                      • Mark Turton
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                                          I now have a vision of a planet ringed by arrows, bit like Saturn only more trad. It make a convincing argument for space exploration, free arrows!

                                          Come to think of it the contents of my wallet also achieve escape velocity on a regular basis, now I know where all my money went:?

                                          Yea but Mom would still run the show.

                                          Doc, you two timin my sister:twisted:

                                          Don’t know what tangerines and Rick O’Shea has to do with it all seems quite logical to me, pass the paint Doc.

                                        • Stephen Graf
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                                            colmike wrote: …Seriously, I think all of you should run for Congress and Steve for President. He can nominate mom for Sec. State she is defiantly qualified for that job…Mike

                                            If elected, I promise to run from the room (screaming like a little girl). Never to be heard from again.

                                          • Doc Nock
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                                              Mark, I can’t wait… I didn’t realize she was in Australia…in the out, back! 🙄

                                              Col m, Ah…I see what ya meant… but hell, if’n yer trollin, you gotta have yer bait in the water… and I’m no virgin to shotguns —lotsa farmers w/ daughters in my past had them! (shotguns):shock:

                                              Escape velocity… space junk? I’d think they’d reach melt down on exit, but perhaps not… certainly on re-entry… but Physics was never my long suit. Grandma used to chase me with a spoonful of nasty stuff she called a physic—er something sounded like it! Gak! 8)

                                              Mark, I ain’t got enough energy or time left on planet earth to two time anyone anymore… But I’m as good “once” as I ever was!

                                              I’m in for the platform introduced here! Where do we send money?

                                              And as for accusations about ‘paint fumes’…I swear that I did NOT inhale!

                                            • Mohawk13
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                                                Ya Can’t fix stupid, But You sure can laugh at it!!!!

                                                What have they been dumping in the water up there??

                                              • Ralph
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                                                  Hey Doc, I think it’s ingested by proximity, like stupidity in some locals a bit east of you.

                                                  I went out and tested the theory last night. It works. Here’s proof. :D:D

                                                  40# bow, 400 gr. arrow, 27.5″ draw. 😉

                                                  Had to be quick with the camera though.

                                                • Col Mike
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                                                    Like the ancients when I look up at night I see –things—you all see Bruce out in front with a chronometer?

                                                    The constellation Smithhammer! Some shot Ralph man my 775 gr. arrows are really going to upset the folks in the mountain in CO. Springs:D

                                                    Doc good luck on that two step–don’t send the money to Bruce we will just see a bunch of new bows and leather goods–on second thought that would make him our “lobbyist”

                                                    Can’t think of a better one:D

                                                    Sorry mom (Mrs. Sect.) shot the bow today:shock:

                                                    Mike

                                                  • David Coulter
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                                                      I enjoyed this thread. If anyone comes along a youtube of the actual explanation, please, please share it.

                                                      All the best, dwc

                                                    • Robin Conrads
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                                                        I might be “defiantly” qualified for the Secretary of State job, but I will politely decline the nomination. 😉

                                                        I’ve also enjoyed this thread. It’s kinda fun to be silly for a bit.

                                                      • Bruce Smithhammer
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                                                          Webmother wrote: …It’s kinda fun to be silly for a bit.

                                                          For a bit? I plan on being silly long time. Like all things, seriousness is best kept in moderation…

                                                        • jmsmithy
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                                                            eidsvolling wrote: I happened to see the episode in question. As their next door neighbor, I cringed when I heard the statement. If she weren’t so busy with other tasks, I’d fly my physics-teaching PhD sister out here to ‘splain things to the warden.

                                                            It has been topped recently by a reported assertion by a wildlife trooper in the farthest northern state to a bear hunter that the “28” on the hunter’s bow indicated a draw weight below the legal minimum …

                                                            I saw the same show and was dumbstruck…especially given the fact I was watching with my 14 y/o best huntin buddy. How happy was I when he turned around, looked at me, and said ” Dad, he can’t be serious, and he’s a game warden!?!”….another proud moment!

                                                          • Col Mike
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                                                              For a bit? I plan on being silly long time. Like all things, seriousness is best kept in moderation…

                                                              Yep, spent to much time being serious:x

                                                              Going camping for a couple of weeks be back about 5 July.

                                                              Mike

                                                            • Bruce Smithhammer
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                                                                colmike wrote:

                                                                Yep, spent to much time being serious:x

                                                                Going camping for a couple of weeks be back about 5 July.

                                                                Mike

                                                                Have a great trip, Mike!

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