Grip vs form

[handirifle]

#6594

I got to wondering about an ongoing issue I have when shooting my recurve, and that is I tend to shoot too high.

Now I will say that when I built and shot my carbons with high FOC setup, that problem went away, at 15yds anyway. At closer yardages it’s still there, and of course at farther the heavy arrow drops.

My real question is in what way would grip (high wrist, low wrist, etc) affect arrow impact? The mechanics of it, to me, would seem to say that a high wrist bow would potentially cause the archer to thrust the palm heel down, thus kicking the bow up on release. A low or medium wrist could cause the archer to tip the bow downward on release.

Keep in mind I am mainly referring to the effect, ONLY if it is the incorrect one for the archer’s form. To say, that if an archer SHOULD be shooting low wrist, a high wrist bow would cause the lower limb to kick up, and thus shoot high, and so on.

AM I anywhere close on this line of thinking?

My bow is an old $50 Ebay bow and I am not opposed to taking the sander to it, if need be, to correct my shooting issues.

I have been shooting MANY years, and do not notice the limbs kicking either way, but it could be very subtle as well.

[Stephen Graf]

#53070

I don’t have any wise words for you, but I can commiserate…

I have the same issue at ranges over 12 yards or so. If I just let ‘er rip, I shoot about 2 inches high. Whether 50 yds or 15 yds.

Some bad news is that your better shooting with the FOC arrows will probably fade as you get used to them and your brain adjusts.

I don’t mess with recurves much, but I have found that changing my grip to a dished grip on longbows has helped some. So maybe a different grip might help on the recurve too. But the main thing that helps me is to really slow things down. Shooting high is a result of an early release I think. I get things lined up and loose the string before I’ve settled down on the target.

But knowing it won’t fix it. It’s a hard habit to break. If you get it worked out, let us know what worked!

[James Harvey]

#53452

Handi, can I ask what has made you suspect the wrist position as a cause?

handirifle wrote: shot my carbons with high FOC setup that problem went away, at 15yds anyway. At closer yardages it’s still there

If changes in your arrow (and presumably arrow trajectory) and changes in range have an impact on this issue it suggests to me a point of aim issue rather than a form issue.

Jim

[handirifle]

#54537

Jim

Maybe looking for something to blame beside me? 😀

Seriously, i have shot more accurately with other bows than this one and it got me to wondering.

I am not overly attached to this bow, and may try another, but cannot afford a quality bow, hence the willingness to change it.

As for time to release, I cannot shoot well at all using the “touch and go” method. So I do aim somewhat, not like with a sight, but more of a mental “feel”. Must be my feelings are off 😀

Fixed my typo’s. Stupid smart phone 😕

[shirikahn]

#55936

I used to do this too. My father said it was my “minds eye” double guessing yardage. He told me to “Quit questioning and start shooting”. I know that sounds very simplistic, but I went to consistently 1 1/2 inch high to right where I wanted. Just a thought.

[Jason Wesbrock]

#56621

Generally speaking, a high wrist will cause a lower point of impact, especially if you grip the bow tightly. A low wrist with excessive heel pressure will make the arrows impact higher.

[handirifle]

#56853

Now I would have thought just the opposite, interesting.

[Jason Wesbrock]

#57784

A low wrist with excessive heel pressure pushes the bottom of the bow away, tipping the bow upward. A tight high wrist does the opposite.

[handirifle]

#58216

OK well I will have a look at the riser and see what I can do.

Thanks guys.

[Bender]

#61482

Whut Wesbock sed.

Whut ausjim sed.

And as to Steve Graf’s comment, it makes no sense to me that a set up would shoot accurately, then as time passes, accuracy would deteriorate.

[Stephen Graf]

#9266

Bender wrote: …Steve Graf’s comment, it makes no sense to me that a set up would shoot accurately, then as time passes, accuracy would deteriorate…

My comment was about the shooter, not the bow. I was observing that you can make a change to your setup that affects the point of impact. But over time, your brain compensates and the point of impact shifts back. Not as a result of equipment change, just a result of the shooter adjusting to the new setup.

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