DO THEY PUNCH HARD ENOUGH!!!

[rebstud]

#6678

I really hate to say this but! I’ve been hunting hogs the last few weeks(here in Floida) and have hit two different
hogs,at two different times. Both hogs where hit just behind
the head down through the shoulder blades. I’m in a tree stand
so the hogs are somewhat under me,about 15yrds out. I’m
getting pass through and blood but the woods are very thick with heavy Palmettos,which are about as dense as it gets.
anyway if you don’t get to the hogs fast enough,the other hogs
eat them. So with that said. Does my Blk. Widow 58″51#@28 have enough as* to pass a Rage through a hog. Be easy with me
I really do all I can do to retrieve these hogs,but like I said when the shot hog squeals its like ringing a dinner bell
and your lucky to have thirty minutes to get to them. thus
the reason for the attemped spine shot..Thanks Wade

[Patrick]

#53705

Howdy. Here’s a thread for ya:
https://www.tradbow.com/members/cfmbb/messages.cfm?threadid=E1388656-1422-1DE9-ED2C8BA975FF0CC1

[rebstud]

#53744

Patrick wrote: Howdy. Here’s a thread for ya:
https://www.tradbow.com/members/cfmbb/messages.cfm?threadid=E1388656-1422-1DE9-ED2C8BA975FF0CC1

Patrick; Thanks that was enteresting to say the least. Super nice hogs..Thanks for the tread….Wade

[Fletcher]

#54382

IME, it gonna be tough getting any broadhead down and out thru all that shoulder bone and muscle, much less aomething like a Rage. Quartering shots are great, but they need to come from behind, not facing on. Regardless of their design, mechanical heads seem to require more momentum than a good fixed blade. I see video of Rage chest shot deer from heavy compounds that barely get half a shaft worth of penetration.

Choose a good solid cut on contact BH that tunes well from your bow, sharpen it well and wait for the broadside or quartering away shot. MMMM! Porkchops!

[Mark Turton]

#54658

Hi Reb, just checked out the Rage website and as far as I can see they don’t do a comparison with ‘a good solid cut on contact BH’ as suggested by Fletcher.
Any mechanical devise must use energy to activate it, in the case of broadheads this results in less penetration and with all things mechanical they will go wrong from time to time.
If available you could try a good dog to follow up.
I’ll be thinking of you sat by the BBQ, Mark.

[Stephen Graf]

#54707

I have not shot a pig myself, so consider that when you consider my advice….

The vitals on a pig are much lower in the chest then you might think. In your initial post, I think you said the arrow passed through the pig. I think this likely means it passed over the top of the spine doing little damage to the critter. If it had passes through the vitals, you would have found it fairly quickly. A pig shot through the lungs or heart can’t go far.

At 15 yds, you should be able to take a nice broadside shot into the lower chest cavity. I would recommend this tried and true strategy. Trying to take a spine shot to put them down on the spot with a bow is a low probability shot.

I agree with the comments made about broadhead selection. Expandable blades may be ok for compound bows, but not traditional setups.

I have had good success with magnus heads in the past. This year I will be using the Wapiti head by aboyer. They are sitting on the fireplace mantle under my big elk head getting some good karma…

[David Petersen]

#55024

Reb — you really should read Ashby’s report on mechanical broadhead failures and inefficiency. The best of them perform poorly compared to almost any fixed blade. In some states they are outlawed for big game, and limited in others. I think they should be outlawed for all big game period. And I can hardly think of anything more aesthetically incompatible with traditional bowhunting than mechanical broadheads. Not scolding, just advising. Even though I’ve been involved in every Ashby article to appear in TBM in recent years, darned if I can recall if the one on mechanical heads has already run or is pending publication. When Robin comes back, she will know. Meanwhile it’s in the Ashby library here and definitely worth a read. Among the most successful hog hunters we know is Kingwouldbe, as per the photos above. He’s used lots of heads over the years but seems to have settled on the good old Grizzly El Grande 190-grain single bevel as the most effective on even hogzillas. Keep it simple, is a good rule to follow in trad bowhunting as elsewhere in life. 😀 dp

[Patrick]

#55068

Oh, wow, I didn’t even know that’s a mechanical broadhead. Ditto what Dave said.

PS: I believe the article about mechanical broadheads Dave is refering to, is the Oct/Nov 2009 issue

[rebstud]

#55241

Thanks for all the comments! Yeah I have to cut the apron strings for sure. I bought me a A.C.S. today,what a wounderful shooter. 51#@28 shoot real well. Not that its going to track my hogs for me,just wanted something with a little more bump to it. I’ve settled on Sng. bevel Eclipes for heads. And i’m taking the advice ya’ll gave me about waiting on a good broad side shot.I’ll read up on the mech. article to educate myself,but have made up my mind to “Keep it simple” Traditionally I’m sure thats what makes it what it is….Thanks again everyone for leading me down the path of traditionalism (is that a word)…Wade

[David Petersen]

#55277

Good calls, Reb. You’ll love the way those Eclipse fly and cut! dp

[rebstud]

#62844

David Petersen wrote: Good calls, Reb. You’ll love the way those Eclipse fly and cut! dp

Thanks David; Thanks for all your advice, I read Ashbys reports on Machanical Broadheads,and decided on the Eclipse broadheads. Took the advice on waiting for an oppropriate shot. Well this morning it paid off,I took a nice BBQ’er. A pass through lung shot at about 12yrds. Super blood trail for about 80yrds,and he’s already in the freezer!! Thanks again..Wade

[Stephen Graf]

#63544

Good Man!

[Mark Turton]

#63837

good on yer Reb.

[Patrick]

#63884

rebstud wrote: Took the advice on waiting for an oppropriate shot. Well this morning it paid off,I took a nice BBQ’er. A pass through lung shot at about 12yrds. Super blood trail for about 80yrds,and he’s already in the freezer!! Thanks again..Wade

Wow, that was a quick return on investment! Congrats!

[rebstud]

#7670

Patrick wrote: [quote=rebstud]Took the advice on waiting for an oppropriate shot. Well this morning it paid off,I took a nice BBQ’er. A pass through lung shot at about 12yrds. Super blood trail for about 80yrds,and he’s already in the freezer!! Thanks again..Wade

Wow, that was a quick return on investment! Congrats!
Thanks Guys; Yeah turned out rreally nice,when you have a good blood trail! One thing though,it was a real pain getting an edge on the Eclipse broad heads. At first thought I wasn’t going to order them any more,but What the heck after you shoot even a presharpened head,you have to put a new edge on it! I guess I’m going to have to get better at putting an edge on what ever I shoot>Thanks again..Regards Wade

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