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I have a custom made knife I purchased a number of years ago, with a fake ivory handle that has cracked. I want to replace the handle. Despite my description of the handle, it is a pretty high end custom knife and cost me some big bucks. I really want/need to have another handle made for it. This time, I want wood. I can’t get in touch with the original maker, so I’m wondering if any of you could recommend a custom knife maker who might accommodate me. Thanks.
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Maybe Joe Keeslar. I’ll see if I can find any contact info for you. He’s a very talented knife maker and the past president of the American Bladesmith Society. todd
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Why dont you try and make one yourself, I did that out of a block of black walnut turned out nice! Simple tools, dremel!
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Greatreearcher wrote: Why dont you try and make one yourself, I did that out of a block of black walnut turned out nice! Simple tools, dremel!
lol! You don’t know me very well. I have no artistic ability. That coupled with being a perfectionist, is a recipe for disaster. I’ll leave knife making/repair to the professionals. 🙂
If it was a cheapie, I’d CONSIDER it…then have someone else do it. Ha!
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oo, yea mine was a cheapy with a decent blade, I just hated everything about the handle at the time! Still do hate the old handle, I love my new one though!
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Like I mentioned before, that is a gorgeous blade 🙂 Guess I can post the before and after pics for you Patrick on your post if your ok with it. Should you like the step by step pictorial of the process, I can do that too, just let me know.
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Well, here we go….
I was really happy to see Patrick’s knife arrived safely today and with the excitement shown in his e-mails, I thought I’d better get working on getting him a new set of Stabilized White Ash Burl wooden scales on his handle.
The picture found below shows you how the knife looked prior to having its handle removed.
Now, believe me, I was a bit nervous grinding the scales off because you don’t want to grind into the front of the blade either……..Everything went well and we were able to remove the scales and the pins.
Note the rust that has formed under the scales. This is generally caused by gaps caused between the scale and the handle. Perhaps there was not enough epoxy added to the handle when it was fitted or the scales were tightened too much and the glue was pressed out prior to it hardening. In anycase, this needs to be cleaned up with 220 grit sandpaper, no machines used, just good old elbow grease.
Since we are working with a absolutely gorgeous damascus blade, we want to make sure that we don’t scratch or damage the blade and ricasso portion of the blade so I used masking tape and covered the whole front portion.
Here is the picture of the handle portion of the blade cleaned up with the sandpaper. I also used acetone to complete the cleaning.
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When I asked Patrick what type of wood he would like, I showed him a picture of one of the knives I had done using Stabilized White Ash Burl and he really liked it. Well, Patrick was in luck, I had two sets of highly detailed S.W.A.B. left and it would really look great on his knife so this is where the custom fitting starts.
I took Patrick’s old plastic ivory scale and used it as a template on the new handle material. I basically needed the front portion of the handle as I needed to grind that down before fitting the wooden scale on the blade. I like to clamp the scale to the knife handle using vice grips because it does not move and I like to leave enough room so I can use a ball level either to the front or the rear of the handle to ensure I am drilling straight up and down. This also helps in the final fitting, as everything goew together pretty snug.
This is what I meant by using a ball level, it’s pretty handy let me tell you.
Once the holes are done in the first set of scales, I simply have to repeat the same process with the other side.
Here is the picture showing you the finished holes on one side. That is going to be one fine handle. -
The best is yet to come Patrick, the handle is glued up and curing quite well. I’ll post the pictures of the next steps later on this evening and your absolutely right, the handle will look fantastic.
Everything fit together very snug and there were no issues with the assembly. The moment we’ll start the shaping of your handle is the time you’ll enjoy witnessing its transformation.
Until then Patrik, keep smiling and thank you for allowing us to do that work for you.
SB
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After thinking about what process I should get to in this tread, I thought I’d better continue where I left off a few days ago.
In this picture, I cut two stainless pins and placed them beside the knife blank and right side scale. I made two pins because I’ll need them to fit both scales together to replicate the front curve, so that they are both identical.
At this point, I took the time to choose a nice fitting wood grain design for the left scale and clamped it to the blade. You’ll note here that I added a blue pen that points to the front of the scale. It really doesn’t matter it the front of the scales match at this point because we’ll do that in the next step.
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The next thing I done was to bring the present set-up to the drill press and make sure using a ball valve level that I drilled my holes straight up and down.
Once I finished doing that, I took the two stainless pins I cut earlier on and put the two scales together. The reason I do this is to use the first scale and use it as a guide so I can trace the same shape and or curve on the other scale. Makes things easier.
Then with a coping saw, I cut out the front of the scale allowing myself to leave a bit more wooden material so I can grind them down later and get both fronts even and of the same shape. Its so important here to completely finish both fronts together ( sanding and buffing ) because if you don’t do that here, its very hard to do so when you have everything glued up. You increase your chances of damaging the blade with sand paper.
Now that we have the fronts all shiny, its time to get those two wooden scales apart and cleaned up. The scales actually look pretty good at this point.
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Since the stabilized white ahs burl are so unique, I choose to use nickle silver pins. The colour of the nickle silver will add a nice complicity to the already accented flames in the right and left wooden scales.
The one problem I seen in using nickle silver pins is that the stock material comes pretty polished and I like to rough the sides using 120 grit sand paper on my lap wheel. The rough surface really adds to the epoxy adhesion when you glueing and securing eveything together.
Something that is making me smile is this, the wood design/patterns will really balance well with the damascus blade.
The next step is also very important, using 60 grit sand paper, I basically rough up all the surfaces that will join together. I then put on all of my protective gear and use acetone to clean the handle, scales and pins.
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Well, Patrick, as per mentioned before, everything went extremely well with the final asssembly and I’m still waiting for the handle to cure to get grinding.
I think its going to look pretty nice 🙂
It’s been pretty busy here lately but I have tomorrow evening lined up to finish your handle. I’m looking forward to it too 🙂
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Now the fun starts, I am about to start giving the handle its final shape. I go about doing this by following very specific steps so I’ll try and add the right picture for you so you can see why I do things the way I do and how it helps to achieve the final form. The end product ( I hope ) will compliment the damascus blade.
Will post back in a bit 🙂
Cross your fingers Patrick 🙂 LOL
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The joys of replacing handles 🙂 LOL
I wanted to take this time to thank Patrick, the originator of this tread for helping me throughout this process. Without his assistance and recommendations, I believe the tasks performed would have been difficult to do but with his support and help, this small project was worth doing, again thank you Patrick 🙂
SB
Now I’m off grinding !!!!!
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Once i take the clamps holding the wood scales to the blade, I bring the knife to my 2″ x 72″ Bee V.S. Grinder and I grind the pins down to the wood. I also take the time to make sure both my wooden scales are flattened level with the blade.
Here is the top view of the handle.
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This next step consists of grinding my forward and rear bevels. You have to pay special attention to the front bevel because you can’t put back material you’ve removed so easy does it 🙂
Once you get pretty close to the angles your looking for, I don’t worry about mirroring one side with another because I usually get that done with the final hand sanding.
Once I’m satisfied with the overall shapes, I round the top area of the wooden handle, giving its user a comfortable feeling when the knife is in the hand.
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It’s morning here and I started early on doing the final sanding. Since its stabilized wood, I do my final sanding using 400 grit wet/dry sand paper. The reason for this is that I don’t find that once polished, the grain pattern really stands out using finer sand paper.
Stabilized wood: You can get various forms of stabilized woods out there, some stabilization methods completely fill the voids with a fiberglass resin. This makes finishing the wood easier because your buffing compound does not get into every crook and cranny. It does however make the wood that much heavier which is something I don’t prefer. We use the acrylic method where we treat the wood fibers and transform them from a wood to acrylic without filling the voids. The wood is lighter and easier to work with. The only problem with this is the moment you add the tinnyest amount of buffing compound, you now have it everywhere in your handle material.
So to fix this problem, I like to add a drop of thin cyanocrylate on a latex glove and I spread it evenly over the wood scale making sure it completely fills in all the cracks, voids. I let that dry and give the handle a light sanding. Using an air compressor, I clean up the handle of any dust particles and repeat the same process. This method prevents the compound from filling any type of void and the handle shines like its supposed to.
When I get back from the shop, I can post the finished knife……and its nice too 🙂
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Well, I’m done 🙂 However, the batteries in my digital camera need charging. Bad timing of course although it will give me a bit of time to make a small caribou antler stand for Patrick’s final pictures of his incredible damascus knife, and as I told Patrick numerous times, it is a gorgeous knife.
I also have to say that this was a nice opportunity to give Patrick and all of you a sneak peak into some of the things we do as knifemakers. Also I want to thank Robin and the staff at Tradbow for allowing me to do this through their web site.
Too often today, we do things for other people because we need to and this was something I could do for Patrick because I wanted to, felt good.
Enjoy your knife Patrick ! Final pics soon.
I checked the batteries and they still need a few more minutes to charge 🙂
SB
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Ron, did you know you are an absolutely wonderful, kind and great human being !!!!!
Alright, I’ll post the before picture of the knife with the finished one plus a closeup of the stabilized white ash burl grain pattern.
And the Close up 🙂 Isn’t that a gorgeous knife !!!
There Done 🙂
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I CANNOT wait to get that baby back and see it in person! Absolutely amazing! By the way, I WILL be using it. I’ve used it to field dress deer before. A knife is meant to be used, no matter how gorgeous (and this one is as GORGEOUS as it gets!) Hopefully, I’ll be field dressing a buck this year with it yet. 😀
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SB, you are indeed an artist my friend.
Patrick, SB is one of the premier knife makers in all of North America. He’s far too humble and mild mannered to admit it though. You’d be hard pressed to find anyone more qualified to restore your beautiful knife. Just thought you should know.
Ron
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sharpster wrote: SB, you are indeed an artist my friend.
Patrick, SB is one of the premier knife makers in all of North America. He’s far too humble and mild mannered to admit it though. You’d be hard pressed to find anyone more qualified to restore your beautiful knife. Just thought you should know.
Ron
Agreed…on all counts! 😀
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Very nice SB, now I’ll just send you the new delivery address for Patrick’s knife.
Patrick, you know the old tradition of giving the maker a silver coin, save cutting a friendship.
Mark.
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Alright Sharpster, don’t you go and blow things out of proportions now !!!!! 😉 The one thing I like to tell people is that in terms of knifemaking, we haven’t seen the tip of thte iceberg yet. By that I mean these new upcoming knifemakers are outstanding, the things they do is amazing, kuddos to anyone out there that starts knifemaking, you are the true testament of what knifemaking should be !!!
SB
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Hi Patrick,
Just to let you know your knife went through its own professional photo shoot today and we will send you the final pictures on a thumb drive. The knife will be shipped out Monday morning and I am already missing the darn thing and its not gone yet.
SB
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StandingBear wrote: Hi Patrick,
Just to let you know your knife went through its own professional photo shoot today and we will send you the final pictures on a thumb drive. The knife will be shipped out Monday morning and I am already missing the darn thing and its not gone yet.
SB
Sweet.
I’ll send photos of her every now and then so you two can keep in touch. 😉
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There’s good news and pictures to go with them too 🙂
Your knife is on its way back to you today and I thought of posting some of the pictures we took for Patrick and sneak peak into the “Build Along” scrapbook were making for him.
You guys and gals must see this damascus detail, its absolutely incredible….
…and a final one of Patrick’s new Stabilized White Ash Burl handle.
It’s been a blast !!!!! God Bless
SB
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…AND a scrapbook too! 8)
It took 10 days to get to you. The countdown begins:
9 days, 18 hours, 15 minutes, 10 seconds….:lol: (It’s like Christmas in November).EDIT: 6 days 😉
EDIT: 4 days 🙂
EDIT: 2 days 😀
EDIT: I can’t wait to check the mail when I get out of work!!!
EDIT: Pretty unbelievable, but it arrived in EXACTLY 10 days, but I wasn’t home to sign for it so I picked it up this morning. SB, you truly did an awesome job. Plus, I’ve NEVER felt a knife as sharp as this one is now. I am NOT exagerating. -
Pretty unbelievable, but it arrived in EXACTLY 10 days, but I wasn’t home to sign for it so I picked it up this morning. SB, you truly did an awesome job. Plus, I’ve NEVER felt a knife as sharp as this one is now…NOT exagerating.
Thanks StandingBear, you truly are a standup…Bear?! 😀
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