Bird Points

[qsmith]

#3857

I am looking for a good point to use for hunting pheasants and other upland game. Right now I have some carbon shafts for screw-on points, and will soon be getting some wood shafts so whether glue on or screw in I am all ears for any good ideas.

I have seen a few variations such as the “snaro bird point” and all kinds of blunts. I guess I am wondering why there isn’t just a smaller broadhead to use on birds? I have also seen something that looks like the wire prongs on a judo point that you are supposed to put behind your normal hunting broadheads, the idea being to stop complete pass through so you don’t lose your arrow. These only work on carbon or aluminum shafts though.

Any ideas, thougts, or advice woul be welcome! Thanks!

I would also love to hear any good tips about actually hunting birds with traditional equipment. I can’t wait to experience this challenge!

[Polar Bear]

#24535

Use broadheads. Blunts just knock the bird off its flight path. Use the same head you would for deer and other big game.

[Stephen Graf]

#24979

All I know about hunting phesant with a bow I learned from the Fred Bear Video on the topic. Looks like they just used field points.

The announcer said that “any hit will bring a bird down”. They also had what looked like a good dog….

Sure sounds like fun, whatever you end up using…

[Bruce Smithhammer]

#25303

For forest grouse, judo points will work fine.

While I’ve never shot them, I’ve heard that those “snaro” type wire points don’t fly very well, particularly out of lower-speed trad bows.

Pheasants are tough. They are much harder to knock down, and keep down, than grouse in my experience. If you just injure them, they’ll hit the ground running, and good luck finding them without a dog. I would use whatever is going to do the most damage on impact with a pheasant.

[wahoo]

#25343

I like the idea of using field pts because I take my dog. For big blues I use magnus bird heads with a razor blade in it. All other grouse I use judos.

[Hubertus]

#25600

I recently made some “bird” arrows but have yet to get a shot off. But for what it’s worth:

I bought some cheaper 100gr broadheads (2-blade, screw-in) and put scorpios (the judo prongs that slide up the shaft on impact) behind them.

[snafu72]

#26062

I have not hunted Pheasants but i use the G 5 Small game heads on rabbits grouse and porcupines

[Polar Bear]

#26349

I have hunted pheasant and they are not easy to knock down. Other than broadheads Huberyus has a good set up. You could probably do the same thing with field points. I watched a guy hit one dead on broadside. Blew some feathers off and the arrow fell to the ground. Make sure your points are sharp.

I will tell you this. If you are hunting with friends you will have a great deal of fun.

[George D. Stout]

#26646

I don’t know which Fred Bear you watched hunt pheasants, but his video hunt show broadheads on his arrows. You won’t kill pheasants with blunts, judos or anthing that isn’t cutting edge. Use some old broadheads, and if you are using dogs, dull the edges of the heads.

[Stephen Graf]

#27304

Right as usual George. Sorry. I went back and watched the “Fins, Feather, and Fur” episode. Right at the beginning of the feathers section is a shot of Fred Nocking an arrow with a broadhead.

[qsmith]

#29910

Hey everybody thanks for the great tips. I think I have come to a decision. I am going to use the replacement claw from a “Barta blunt” behind a field point. These are supposed to cut a small hole in game anyway. I just do not want to be slinging expensive broadheads into the air and maybe not getting them back. I didn’t want to use only field points because pheasant are really tough birds and are sometimes hard to kill with a shotgun. Hopefully this is a good alternative. The only downside is that this can only be used on carbon or aluminum shafts.

Here is the link to the product at 3Rivers. http://www.3riversarchery.com/Product.asp?c=10&s=43&p=95&i=5408

[Bruce Smithhammer]

#30003

Let us know how it goes. I’ve taken many pheasant with a shotgun, but this year I really want to try and take one with my old K-Mag. I’m going to use Steelforce Phathead 4-blades with Scorpios backing them up. Fletching up some sprial flu-flus this week to round out the package.

[archer38]

#21764

Never hunted pheasant but for grouse or partridge I use a beer bottle cap with a field tip screwed in through it. Killed several birds with it so far and never lost one when hit or lost and arrow when missed. The nice thing is, when it gets too bent out of shape, it is really cheap and easy to replace.

I suppose you could also use this with a broadhead if you choose.

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