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    • Jpchilton
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        All of a sudden I am having problems with my arrow pivoting off the shelf as I draw my bow. I use a tab, have for decades. As I begin the draw, the arrow pivots at the nock, swinging away from the bow at the shelf. Very frustrating; I can foresee blow shots come deer season. Can some of you old pros tell me what’s causing this?

        Thank you.

      • wahoo
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          hey I had the same issue. I started building my own strings and I also changed from a tab to a glove. My arrow started swinging to the left so I thought the serving was wrong but after shooting several session with the new glove my probs are gone ??? I’m sorry that I am really not answering your question and I really can’t say what happened to me but right now my shooting is good. Hopefully just time for the glove to break in ???? Good luck

        • Jpchilton
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            It seems counterintuitive. I draw with my right hand so my fingers are to the right of the string; looks like any torque on the string would be clockwise. Yet the arrow is swinging counterclockwise at the nock. ?

          • wildschwein
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              My wife had a similar issue. Only it wasn’t her drawing hand that was causing the problem. For reasons we don’t know she had begun to torque her bow hand, and this was causing her arrow to fall off the shelf. So she did a bit of bail practice, and after focusing on it for a while it went away. No issues since.

            • Stephen Graf
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                If the arrow is being torqued, it means you are shooting split fingers…

                I think the root cause is that you may be crabbing your hand. As you get ready to draw, concentrate on relaxing your hand so that it stays in line with your wrist and fore arm. Also- your elbow may be getting high, concentrate on keeping your elbow down and in line with the arrow.

                Shooting 3 fingers under relieves this problem. Can’t torque the arrow if you aren’t pinching the arrow with your fingers…

              • Jpchilton
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                  Thank you, guys. I will work on both bow arm and relaxing my drawing hand. Three fingers under really seems unnatural for me so I may have to slug it out with my old split finger draw. Or maybe I could just learn to shoot with the arrow wagging off into space somewhere….

                • Jpchilton
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                    Okay guys, paid lots of attention to my bow hand this morning and concentrated on relaxing my fingers on the draw hand (can one concentrate and relax at the same time?). I even switched back to a tab with finger-spacer although I don’t think it made any difference; I usually shoot a finger-spacerless tab.
                    End result: not a single arrow left the shelf. Thank you for all the good advice. Now if I can only get tighter groups somewhere near the mark I’m shooting at….

                  • Larry O. Fischer
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                      Yes, a relaxed hand is the key, G. Fred covers this topic extensively in his newest book, Advanced Instinctive Shooting. Available from Hunter Image at GFredAsbell.com

                    • David Coulter
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                        Fred’s new book is excellent. It really covers everything very thoroughly. I also have read that not giving the arrow some space between the fingers can cause the arrow to fall off the shelf.

                      • Ripforce
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                          Check ot this video it really helped me out!

                        • David Petersen
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                            Ripforce, who is the gentleman in the video, what is the source, and can you provide a direct link? Thanks, dp

                          • Ripforce
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                              Guy goes by Moebow you can find him on U-tube, he is a bow instuctor, he is on Tad Gang also! His videos have helped me out a lot!

                            • bobmack11qq
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                                ripforce great video

                              • FUBAR
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                                  Very good video

                                • new moon
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                                    Good video. It prompted me to go and watch some of his other videos on You Tube. They were Also very good

                                    Josh

                                  • Ripforce
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                                      Totally changed my shooting style too! Best I have ever shot at the moment!

                                    • Patrick
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                                        David Petersen wrote: Ripforce, who is the gentleman in the video, what is the source, and can you provide a direct link? Thanks, dp

                                        FYI: If you click the “YouTube” button just to the right of “watch later”, it’ll open up the direct link/YouTube page.

                                      • strait-aero
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                                          Watched the video and found it very informative:) Wayne

                                        • rwbowman
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                                            This happens to me from time to time as well. What I’ve found is no matter what I’m using- glove or tab- it has a lot to do with where on my fingers the string lies before I draw, and the movement of my fingertips as I draw. Like this: I’m right eye dominant:wink: and thus pull the string with my right hand, one over two under. If I rest the string on the pads of my fingertips, but as I draw, bend my fingertips to point toward my ear, the string more or less rolls into the first joints of my fingers, thus turning counter clockwise and throwing the arrow off the shelf. I’m still learning and always trying to convince the inner me that “CONSISTENCY IS KEY”, meaning if I’m going to shoot from the pads of my fingertips, I ought not bend them further in as I prepare to draw. Hope this makes sense.

                                          • Arne Moe
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                                              Hey folks, I’m glad the videos are helping answer some questions. Below is a link to the videos I’ve done. I have been a “lurker” here for a while but like to try to help with suggestions.

                                              Arne

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