Arrow spin

[Bowgnome]

#5795

Just fletched up 6 Arrow Dynamics Trad Light shafts w/ 3- 4″ bannana feathers & 175 gr. field points. Bare arrows shot good at 10 yds. Fletched shot good at 10 yds too. After shooting a few at LONG range (100> just for fun) they wobble big time.

Where do I start w/ this problem ?

[ray montoya]

#44725

What bow weight are you shooting? How long are the arrows? When I make AD’s for my clients, I usually need a 100 grain brass insert and a 100 grain tip to soften the spine for 55# bows. The AD’s are very stiff to start. Have you shot the bare shafts past ten yards? Have you shot the fletched arrows through paper? Remember, as a finger shooter shooting through paper, you’ll never achieve a perfect hole at ten feet…

[Bowgnome]

#45314

I am shooting 45# at 26″ and the Trad Lite shafts arc cut to 27 1/2″. I’m using the standard insert w/ 175 gr. field points The bare shafts have not been shot past 10 yds.but they did fly good at that distance.

Any suggestions ?

[ray montoya]

#45871

From my experience with AD’s, the arrow are way to stiff. If I remember right, they are .250 spine deflection. And being that short, with that low of bow poundage, you’ll need a lot up front to soften the spine. I think the web site it nitrostinger.com

[Bowgnome]

#46790

Thanks for the info I will try loading even more up front and see what happens. They were shooting better befor they were refletched.

[Bender]

#60260

Go here:

http://www.bowmaker.net/index2.htm

Read it, learn how to actually tune your gear.

To go from 10 yds right 100 yards and then wonder what is happening for the other missing 90 yards doesn’t really work.

With bare shaft tuning you can start at 10 yards, then obtain ever finer degrees of better tuning by moving back in increments and repeating the tuning. From 10 to 20 to 30 to 40 even. (Much past 40 and the difference in drag between bare and fletched arrows beigins to become too apparent.)

Anyway as you stretch your tuning to longer distances you will learn so much that you will be able to adress long distance flight problems.

And BTW I suspect that yes, th earrows are too stiff, and a weaker spine is called for.

[David Coulter]

#63108

Bender,

That’s a good link. I’ve read that before and just read it again yesterday. It’s good advice as we have see other tuning experts here give. thanks, dwc

[lyagooshka]

#63284

Bowgnome wrote: The bare shafts have not been shot past 10 yds.but they did fly good at that distance.

Bowgnome, I am pretty new to this, but I seem to have the same issue. Problem is, even though the fletched arrows appear to fly true at 10yd, that distance just isn’t enough for the “first correction”, but as soon as you shoot them far (which I love to do sometimes just for fun 😉 ) you see them either fish-tail or dolphin-tail (or both). Try out to 20yd, or if you have some time, use a square and tie a string perpendicular to your target. Shoot a few arrows using the string as a guide as to how to hold the arrow, and see if they are parallel with the string. I am in the “fine tuning” stage, and I must say, it’s a bit tough. Good luck. Hope this helps. Be well.

Alex

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[David Coulter]

#63330

Hi Guys,

Just a thought and maybe there’s nothing to it. When shooting at any reasonable range, say 10 to 40 yards, form is the same as it always is. When really trying to launch one off into the wild blue, perhaps your form shifts to accommodate the upward angle of the shot.

Any thoughts? d

[lyagooshka]

#63390

dwcphoto wrote: Any thoughts?

Yeah. My form stinks no matter how far I shoot! 😳 I definitelly think that my arrows are not well tuned to the bow. Plus, I am using 2 bows and trying to create an arrow that can shoot from either. They are both close in draw weight (50#/52#) but one is a LB, the other a hybrid. I am really trying to work on my form with the help of these forums. I am also waiting for my new bow that I will use all summer. I might go back to one of these, but the new one will be +/- 80#, so that will change just about everything. It’s a slow process. Still love it though. Just looking to put a bag-style target in the yard to take a few shots a day. The range is close, but many times a pain to go to. Be well.

Alex

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[David Coulter]

#63494

Hi Alex,

You’re a better bull than me to pull an 80# bow. Just a suggestion, but perhaps you can pick the one bow you have that is similar in style to the one you are getting and tune that one.

Do a search on this site for Troy’s tuning tips. It’s pretty similar to the link posted in this thread. Good stuff. It helped me a lot.

I also think there’s a lot to be said for shooting blind bale to work on form. Getting or making a bag target for the back yard would be great. Use it for just a few shots at a time, but often. I make mine with feed bags and old tarps. You can get tarp material from the local billboard advertising agency who just throws them away. Cut the pieces relatively small and stuff the bags tight. I made broadhead targets out of cardboard boxes stuffed with catalogs. They only penetrate a couple of inches and don’t hurt the heads or arrows. Cheap, effective, handy.

As new as I am to this, I’m a firm believer in form. Check the mobow videos and George Stout’s videos. Great stuff. Have fun, dwc

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