Archery Show…

[lyagooshka]

#3189

There are many “reality” TV shows out there. I personally don’t like any of them, but I do watch “Top Shot”. If nothing else, it’s fun and every now and again they have archery. Well, I ran across a pilot for “Nock Out” on YouTube. It’s similar to “Top Shot” but all archery. It’s not traditional (they all have training wheels on their bows 😆 ) but it’s archery none the less. For anyone who’s interested, the link/video is below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygeXKmO9R0c&feature=related

Alex

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[David Coulter]

#17932

Here’s a fun video from a Whittingham shoot. Trad bow and a young archer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPZxy48QxvY

dwc

[David Coulter]

#17944

Okay, one more. Fun shots.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2Rgwoo7VpE

thanks, dwc

[lyagooshka]

#18464

Cool. Both of them. Great to see kids out doing something in the great outdoors. Love the stumpin’ one too. Have to try that next time I’m out.

[Wexbow]

#18791

Some great shooting in those vids. Thanks guys!

[bruc]

#19695

The young fellow with the foam rabbits is amazing !!

Guessing he’s at about 15 yards. The compound bow shooting was fun to watch as well. Some amazing shots!

Bruce

[David Petersen]

#19826

Alex — with their high-poundage let-off, front and rear sights, and trigger releases, I must politely differ with you that compounds are “archery just the same.” It’s far closer to shooting a rifle than a real bow. Just a matter of keeping our terminology straight. 😛

[Etter1]

#19868

David Petersen wrote: Alex — with their high-poundage let-off, front and rear sights, and trigger releases, I must politely differ with you that compounds are “archery just the same.” It’s far closer to shooting a rifle than a real bow. Just a matter of keeping our terminology straight. 😛

I was never all that great with a compound but I have to agree. The last hunting show I watched that wasn’t Barta was about 2 years ago, and a guy killed a bull elk at 80 yards with a compound. To me, that’s not bowhunting.

The most obese man I’ve ever seen was hunting at blackbeard island last year with a compound and claimed he was going to kill one with his 70 yard pin in the savanna. Pathetic.

[Etter1]

#19872

I wish I hadn’t watched the video of that kid. I was feeling pretty good about myself until now.

[Wexbow]

#20852

Etter1 wrote: I wish I hadn’t watched the video of that kid. I was feeling pretty good about myself until now.

Yep, I got that feeling too 🙁

[lyagooshka]

#21804

Etter1 wrote: I wish I hadn’t watched the video of that kid. I was feeling pretty good about myself until now.

No kidding! I’m having trouble with a full-sized 3D deer target at 10 yards while this kid is nailing MOVING rabbits. 😳

Seriously though, good on him. Great to see the next generation being able to do things like that instead of just working their thumbs on the game controller.

[lyagooshka]

#21813

David Petersen wrote: Alex — with their high-poundage let-off, front and rear sights, and trigger releases, I must politely differ with you that compounds are “archery just the same.” It’s far closer to shooting a rifle than a real bow. Just a matter of keeping our terminology straight. 😛

Dave, I understand your point, and agree, but… I was saying “archery just the same” in terms of someone launching an arrow from a bow-type apparatus. I got into archery via the compound. I got into traditional archery because of the things you mention. But it got me into archery and then I was free to choose. You mention rifle, so just to poke the skunk 😛 , 80 yards is much closer to 20 yards than to 1200 yards (shots that can typically be taken at goats). An arrow going 300 fps is much closer to an arrow going 185 fps than to a 30-06 round at 2300 fps. AND (really gonna poke the skunk here 😆 ) I would like to bring up the 185 yard shot that killed an elk. It wasn’t a compound. No, it was a home-made longbow. I think we all know the shot I am referring to as well as the archer.

Anyway, point taken. Be well.

Alex

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[Etter1]

#22100

It is cool to see kids in the woods, just wish they wouldn’t make me look so stupid when I’m three times their age.:D

There was a ten year old kid at blackbeard Island last year that killed four deer on the three day hunt with a recurve. I was blown away. He was the talk of the camp.

[David Coulter]

#23390

A couple years ago there was a lad at Whittingham shooting at another rabbit-type, moving target range. He was pegging them. He had forgotten his glove and was shooting away, three bloody fingers under with band aids on his finger tips.

[jmsmithy]

#27669

lyagooshka wrote: [quote=David Petersen]Alex — with their high-poundage let-off, front and rear sights, and trigger releases, I must politely differ with you that compounds are “archery just the same.” It’s far closer to shooting a rifle than a real bow. Just a matter of keeping our terminology straight. 😛

Dave, I understand your point, and agree, but… I was saying “archery just the same” in terms of someone launching an arrow from a bow-type apparatus. I got into archery via the compound. I got into traditional archery because of the things you mention. But it got me into archery and then I was free to choose. You mention rifle, so just to poke the skunk 😛 , 80 yards is much closer to 20 yards than to 1200 yards (shots that can typically be taken at goats). An arrow going 300 fps is much closer to an arrow going 185 fps than to a 30-06 round at 2300 fps. AND (really gonna poke the skunk here 😆 ) I would like to bring up the 185 yard shot that killed an elk. It wasn’t a compound. No, it was a home-made longbow. I think we all know the shot I am referring to as well as the archer.

Anyway, point taken. Be well.

Alex

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Ok. You got me. Gotta ask… Who’s the “185 yard hero” 👿

Ridiculously Long shots, be they bow,rifle,muzzle loader , sling shot etc make me cringe. I love to play with my rifles. I can ring a 6″ gong consistently at 500 yards. With my compound I can put broadhead tipped arrows in a pop can at 50 yards BUT that’s at a range, with no pressure, perfect conditions etc. I don’t think I could ever bring myself to take those kind of shots on game (we’ll leave out extreme goat hunting here and I know a 50 yd shot very possible out west). I don’t know, something about it to me just doesn’t feel right…:?

[lyagooshka]

#27720

Jmsmithy: In “Hunting the Hard Way”, Howard Hill talks about taking an Elk at 185 yards. I am sure you know the name and I don’t need to tell you that the man never had a set of training wheels on anything he ever shot. That being said, my only point to Dave was that there are still plenty of ethical hunters that use compounds, x-bows, rifle, muzzle-loader, handgun, etc. And, the ones who use strings (regardless what they are wound around) instead of powder are much closer to us than the rifle hunters. Still, I cannot argue with Dave (much 😆 ). Problem these days (one of many) is that someone goes to the local mega-store, gets the latest gear, spends 5 minutes at the range (if that since most stores will sight your new “bow” for you), gets hyped up on shows showing 75 yard shots (taken in high-fence preserves and we never see the misses) and then sets loose in the woods. They feel they can buy their way into being H.H. Thing is, Mr. Hill did it “the hard way” and that is something many don’t understand. The man did not start off making 185 yard shots, nor would he have taken the shot if he did not feel sure it was possible. Howard Hill and Byron Ferguson are some of the people I look up to in archery. Either one could take game at many distances, in many situations. I cannot. But it gives me something to work towards. No, I am not working my way up to shooting 185 yards (I doubt I could pull back a true HH bow), but I am working towards being good enough to not have to doubt my abilities. I owe my quarry at least that much. Right not my limit is 10 yards. Needless to say there is no venison in the freezer, but every outing has been a success. I look forward to each one. Be well.

Alex

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[jmsmithy]

#27751

I’m sorry Alex. I’m still relatively new to this and never realized u were talking about Howard Hill. 😳

I assumed ( we all know that one!) you meant the “archery equivalent ” of the guys I see lining up shots 1200 yards away on some critter a valley and a half out to the horizon ! 👿 that’s not hunting. It’s a sniper assassination.

I totally agree with everything u said. Burns my a//-! How these guys are “pros” after a solid hour of shooting. Don’t get me started on the preserve thing. 😈

Anyway been a beautiful albeit quiet night in the deer woods here in Jersey. Time to head home !

Btw. Yes I do realize the irony of “railing against technology” as I post on my smart phone. 😀

[David Petersen]

#27874

Howard Hill was a man of his times and avoiding high-risk wounding shots wasn’t part of his ethics set. Most Hill fans know the sad and embarrassing story of his famed elephant kill. We must give slack for “doing what everyone else did” in a certain time and place. Yet my admiration is reserved for those like Aldo Leopold who “did what was right” even when it went against the grain of what most were doing. A 185 yard bow shot is what it is, no matter who or when or where –irresponsible and just plan wrong. IMHO …

[Col Mike]

#27917

Irresponsible–means you are capable of understanding responsibility–then you have to posses a corps ethic that reinforces that responsibility.

If one needs bragging rights on the range of their shots-try this one which my uncle drilled into me at the tender age of 15

” A good hunter’s arrow point will enter the prey before the feathers leave the bow” usually followed by the critique that “boy you move like a cow in the woods”. Get close it’s the least you can do for your prey and it’s what they deserve.

As usual Dave is right on IMHO.

Semper Fi

Mike

[RayB]

#28448

I feel componds are still in the archery catagory, since you have to hold the bow drawn, but a couple years ago TX legalized cross bows in our archery season and that is not archery. Still P.O.’d about that one 😡

[David Petersen]

#28501

Mike — You uncle would like this one, from last night’s brush-blind ambush hunt, range one meter. Because I was using my pee bottle when the four deer came in and thus was caught with my fly down and it was cold, I neglected to properly focus. Still you get the idea. I’ve had the opportunity to touch three elk in past, had I chosen to, but this is the first deer. I reckon my camo and scent and movement control were all strak. 😀

[Col Mike]

#28836

Dave

It doesn’t get any better then that. Camo,scent, and movement control–good–need to work on fly control. As an aside one of my particularly successful snipers once told me during a debrief that he considered movement control the key to being invisible–not only in hide position but more importantly while stalking. Good advice.

A great excersise to practice for those of you that have dogs–try stalking and touching them when they are outside bedded down. You will really appreciate the wind and slow controlled movement. We have 17 husky’s that I practice on when returning from the woods success rate is about 10%.

Semper Fi

Mike

[lyagooshka]

#29442

Jmsmithy wrote: …Anyway been a beautiful albeit quiet night in the deer woods here in Jersey. Time to head home !

Been pretty quiet here too. I assure you that the deer of northeast PA are safe, at least the ones I have seen. Had a doe come to within 20 yards. Offered no shot, then saw or smelled me, stomped her foot, barked and ran off. Saw a few that morning, but too dark to shoot. Then I almost hit 20 of them on the way home. Think I’ll trade my bow in for a Model-T so I can stay traditional 😆 . Good luck out there. Be well.

Alex

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