Anyone ever use these heads?

[handirifle]

#5961

These look like a decent head, just wondering if anyone has ever used them. Thinking of using them with my wheel bow setup. I have some single bevels for the recurve.

It’s the Steel Force Hellfire 4-Blade, weighs 150gr, which is what the wheel bow is currently set up for.

Otherwise I am thinking of going with the Muzzy, one like the Fred Eichler version. But these are half the price of the Muzzy, so worth a look.

[Jason Wesbrock]

#46520

I would definitely go with the Muzzys. In my experience with those heads, both the ferrules and blades are very weak. I destroyed a few of them just shooting into sheets of ethafoam.

[handirifle]

#46551

Wow, OK I will avoid them then, thanks.

[ray montoya]

#48772

Ive had no problems with the Steele Force heads…killed a few bull with them. My favorte head though from Steele Force is the Phat head, a real tough head, thick blades, and penetrates great…Ive had lots of problems with the Muzzy Phantoms lately, bending ferrules and bleeder blades…seems i cant use the same head twice cause something bends…

[handirifle]

#48886

Interesting, seeing both sides of the proverbial coin I guess. Well I guess I need to retune the bow for heavier heads, or figure something else out. These were going too be for my wheel bow and am trying to keep a fairly flat trajectory to 50 yds or more and still keep arrow weight well above 400gr. But didnt really want to go super heavy, yet.

[handirifle]

#48901

Well I think I might have to give another real long look at the olld wensel woodsman. I had a few and they penetrate like crazy, but they do bend if hitting hard bone,but I guess they most all do in that weight range.

[David Petersen]

#53183

What I don’t like about the Steel Force heads is the lumpy ferrule and the mirror finish. The Tuffhead is basically a SF with an improved ferrule and a carbon finish to add slickness and kill the glint. But, having shot both, I’d take SF over the Woodsman any day. It’s just a whole lot stronger. IMHO.

[Troy Warner]

#53235

Look at razor archery they have some good single piece screw in broad heads. All steel. http://www.rayzor-vpa.com/main.sc

[Dan Jackowiak]

#53529

Or Woodsman Elite in 150. The Werewolfs are definitely my fav tho. I’ve killed quite a few animals with Magnus Stingers in 150 as well but they do bend.

[handirifle]

#54561

2blade wrote: Or Woodsman Elite in 150. The Werewolfs are definitely my fav tho. I’ve killed quite a few animals with Magnus Stingers in 150 as well but they do bend.

I have some magnus originals, but they must be bent slightly as I cannot make them fly accurately.

I have often wondered about them, since their price is certainly good.

I need to get a good arrow spinner to check all my heads for straightness, since some will be shot from my recurve and some from my Mathews. While it’s not a newer 300fps version, even still a hunting weight arrow at 240fps seems to reveal issue with heads that are not perfectly straight, much more so than the recurve.

[Dan Jackowiak]

#54583

I can shoot all these heads at 280fp accurately out to 80 yrds with my wheelie bow. At the slower recurve speed, like you said its kind of a non issue if arrow spine is close. But arrow spine has to be perfect out of the wheelbow. I’ve also found high foc, I shoot about 22%, really improves accuracy along with penetration. Arrow spine is the key to shooting traditional heads at high speed, tune the compound like you do your recurve and you will get there.

[handirifle]

#54787

2blade

When you say all these heads, do you mean all mentioned in this thread? Also do you find tuning spine on the wheel bow to be the same as tuning on the traditional? Maybe I should PM you, but I seem to be having some issues tuning the wheel bow with heavy heads.

[Dan Jackowiak]

#54801

handirifle wrote: 2blade

When you say all these heads, do you mean all mentioned in this thread? Also do you find tuning spine on the wheel bow to be the same as tuning on the traditional? Maybe I should PM you, but I seem to be having some issues tuning the wheel bow with heavy heads.

The heads I mentioned. But I’ve also shot grizzlys, abowyers, tusker and simmons. They all fly good but some of the heads have their quirks. Send me a pm, I’ll help you out.

[handirifle]

#55165

Ok, went back and saw the ones you mentioned. Will do.

[handirifle]

#55170

Those warewolf heads are not cheap, at $90 for six, but still less than some for sure. I will have to give them some thought. Money isn’t plentiful right now.

They do look like great arrowheads though.

[Catamount]

#12511

I’ve shot both and would go with the Muzzy. The blocky ferrule lock on the Steelforce impedes penetration. They do come very sharp from the factory though. I have gotten a pass through on a buck with a Muzzy phantom out of a 45# longbow, they’re a really good head.

[ray montoya]

#13537

I used to love Muzzy Phantoms, but after lots of problems with them, I started using Wasp Sharp Shooters and Zwickey Deltas. We’ve had a few broadheads that the main blade was loose and rattled, plus the bleeder blades were loose and rattled. On the Beman MX and Axis shafts, the bleeder blade slides uo over the shaft. I never liked this problem. Plus it seemed like I bent a lot of broadheads lately.

[handirifle]

#16151

OK I bought a half dozen Magnus Stinger’s in 125. Interesting fact is, I started testing the old Magnus originals I had and figured out why they wobbled, and got most, if not all, of the wobble out. Am trying to narrow it down between the Magnus originals and the Stingers. I gave up on the Steel Force heads above. Still some tuning issues I need to work on.

[Visia]

#34692

I have used Muzzy Phantom SS (220 gr, 4-bladed) and they are great choice of broadheads to any big game hunting. Touch and easy to re-sharp.

[David Petersen]

#34815

Sebastian — Welcome here, all the way from Finland. We are growing increasingly international. 😀 Safe to presume you have legal bowhunting there? Do you have to order your supplies from the internet, or are there trad archery shops there? Dave

[Wexbow]

#35906

Fortunately Dave Finland does have legal bowhunting. It’s somewhere I’m thinking of trying for a bowhunting holiday. I spent a bit of time in Sweden as a student and loved the Scandinavian people and country. Welcome Sebastian!

[Visia]

#39007

David Petersen wrote: Sebastian — Welcome here, all the way from Finland. We are growing increasingly international. 😀 Safe to presume you have legal bowhunting there? Do you have to order your supplies from the internet, or are there trad archery shops there? Dave

Hello David and thanks! 😀 Yes, bowhunting is legal in Finland (Bowhunting have always been allowed for small game, this was formalised in 1993.) As of 2001 04 01 the addition of game up to and including Roedeer and beaver was made.

I usually order my supplies from 3 Rivers Archery. We have some bowhunting shops (or related) in Finland, but they focus more on ”the compound bow stuff”.

We have ONE traditional archery shop in Finland (makes bows and arrows): http://www.mukkanuoli.fi/ipobj/?v.portal.index It should open in english.

Sorry about my bad english 😀

[skifrk]

#41177

Sebastian, when you go hunting for the Roedeer do you also find a lot of healthy mushrooms to take home to eat. What type of small game do you have to hunt there mostly rabbits?

[Visia]

#51766

Collecting mushrooms and berrys isn’t my thing, 🙁

Small games would be Mountain hare, European hare,fox,badger,raccoon dog,waterfowl birds,beaver etc..

Small game is mostly hunted from feeding areas, but driven hunting hares&fox is also popular form of hunting.

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