ammo selection

[Konrad]

#7417

The Arrow Lethality Reports have been illuminating for me to say the least.

In my search for a system that I can live with and be most effective, I would like to ask the opinion of those with life experience an ammo question.

I am not going to forgo my Bear Truth compound bow; however, I would like to maximize my arrow lethality using the data contained within the Reports and work up an Extreme FOC load using a single bevel hunting tip.

My bow has a “hard” cam, 60 pound draw weight, and I currently shoot a 29 inch shaft (measured from the throat of the nock to the end of the insert) and I use a mechanical release. I still fletch left helical/left wing (a remnant from my Kodiak Magnum).

I know none of the above can be considered “traditional” but I would like to use the best of all worlds.

The GrizzlyStik tapered shaft looks like a good starting place but what weight shaft and point should I be shopping for to achieve the mystical 19%?

Thanks for your patience and advice in advance.

[J-dog]

#10525

Never messed with the Grizstiks but look at the glue on heads where you can add a good heavyweight adapter. Or when you order the grizstiks look into some of AKs “Ashby” BHds – heavy and already have the screw in there.

No need to be trad – Hey the Doc probably answer your question for ya. He is round here somewhere.

J

[David Petersen]

#12960

Konrad — The ABS folks are far more familiar with compound set-ups than anyone here is likely to be, and they’re anxious to spread this important info to the compound community. So go to their website and either email or call Garrett or Ed with your questions. They have a shaft that’s right for you. I also advise you forget 19 percent as a goal and try for 25% or better, which is where I see the greatest “upward pulse” of penetration advantage. With synthetic shafts and heavy heads you can attain it easily and will be happily surprised at how good the flight will be, even with vanes, out to reasonable yardage. dave

[Konrad]

#13393

David Petersen wrote: Konrad — The ABS folks are far more familiar with compound set-ups than anyone here is likely to be, and they’re anxious to spread this important info to the compound community. So go to their website and either email or call Garrett or Ed with your questions. They have a shaft that’s right for you. I also advise you forget 19 percent as a goal and try for 25% or better, which is where I see the greatest “upward pulse” of penetration advantage. With synthetic shafts and heavy heads you can attain it easily and will be happily surprised at how good the flight will be, even with vanes, out to reasonable yardage. dave

Thanks Dave,

I did speak with Ed (nice fellow, very well informed and receptive to compound shooters as well). We had quite the conversation on my philosophy that the 375H&H is excellent for deer and other varmints.

He suggested Alaskan shafts and the “Test Kit” of field points to find what worked well.

I’m reverting…converting back to natural fletching, Rayzr 2 inch, “high profile” with my current ammo (for better FOC) and will start there with the ABS shafts. I would think the Rayzr would be a natural fit in the pursuit of the EFOC goal.

25% FOC is hard to get my mind around but statistics bear out your suggestion. I may not be very smart, but I am persistent.

Now, all I have to do is convince my Chief Financial Officer…

Once again, thanks for you feedback.
K

[sapcut]

#13433

Konrad,
I have hand loaded a few arrows lately that are between 860 and 1060 grains and 29% to 31.4% Ultra EFOC. Pulling 71@31 in.
Dave is right..the flight is surprisingly good. For such heavy arrows I am convinced the superb flight is directly due to the FOC being so high.
Don’t be afraid to get all the FOC you can because I don’t know of downside as of yet. It is a win, win, win situation.

[Bloodless]

#13946

Fellers — for what its worth, I just set up some super-light arrows for longer-distance (out to 30 yards is long distance to me!) shooting at antelopes. With 160 grain STOS heads total weight is only 480 on skinny 21/64 tapered cedar shafts. Ain’t figured foc yet but point is with 160 broadheads these light arrows shoot far better than they ever did with 125 field points. Heavy or light shafts, it seems the more weight in front the better they fly, just like the good Doc says. bb 😯

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