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    • gigglemonk
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        Hey all

        So ive been scouting and tuning and bowmaking and practicing and fiending for CA deer season. Ive noticed something odd about my shooting. I keep a little book to record my accuracy and noticed that under 15 yards Im in the vitals over 95% of the time. When I move out to 15 – 30 yards, Im all over the place. Then between 30 – 35 yards Im back in the vitals 90% again.

        I mix up the shooting positions and distances so Im fresh at different positions.

        Anyone experience this kinda thing? My guess is that the arrow may be at similar altitudes <15yards and at 30 - 35 yards.

        Any input is appreciated.

      • Steve Capps
          Post count: 85

          Without seeing you shoot I’d have to guess its a concentration problem. Under 15 is in your “automatic zone”. The longer distance requires greater concentration on your aimpoint and your practice has conditioned you to focus without conciously thinking about it. The middle distance rationally should be easier than the long distance and your brain is aware of that, so it lets your concentration wander. Just take an extra second to focus on the smallest detail you can see on your target no matter what distance its at and it will tighten up your groups.

        • James Harvey
          Member
            Post count: 1130

            So you’re line on target is fine giggle? It’s just your elevation that lets you down at those middle distances? Or do you start shooting left/right at those distances as well?

          • Stephen Graf
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              Not knowing what you define as the kill zone, I have to just go by what I think of as a kill zone, which is about a 3 inch circle. Keeping 9 out of 10 arrows in a 3 inch circle at 30 yds is quite a feat. Salute!

              We also have to guess at how you are aiming. If you are using some sort of split vision or gap shooting method, then the 15/30 yd correlation is not surprising as for most setups, your arrow will be in the same place at those distances. At 15 yds it’s going up, at 30 yds it’s coming down…

            • bruc
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                Post count: 476

                The “Kill Zone” should be like a football with about two inches nipped off each end. Three inches would be a pretty small deer.

                Bruce

              • David Coulter
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                  I’m with 48. Way out there, your concentration is really tuned. I wish with worked so well for me. My accuracy continues to degrade as I back off! dwc

                • gigglemonk
                    Post count: 146

                    ausjim, Im on line just over or under.

                    My kill zone is approximately a 7″ diameter circle. Its the vitals on my 3d target.

                    I just ordered g freds dvd. Hoping to improve!

                    Thanks for all the info

                  • Ben M.
                      Post count: 460

                      Keeping a written record of one’s accuracy is the most obvious thing in the world…and it’s never once occurred to me. I have nothing to add to your excellent post, but I’ve gained an important insight from it. Thanks, man.

                    • danhor7
                        Post count: 11

                        I recently set up a video camera to record the arrow flight because I was seeing something similar, and what I found was the arrows were fish tailing as they left the bow due to an improperly aligned arrow rest. Up close they didn’t have enough time to get sideways. A little farther away they were scattered all over the place. Then a bit farther down range, aerodynamics took over and they straightened out before hitting the target.

                        I didn’t know what I was doing at the time and arguably still don’t, but it was an interesting study of arrow flight.

                        Here’s the video.

                        http://m.youtube.com/index?&desktop_uri=%2F

                      • Alexandre Bugnon
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                          stchunter48 wrote: Without seeing you shoot I’d have to guess its a concentration problem. Under 15 is in your “automatic zone”. The longer distance requires greater concentration on your aimpoint and your practice has conditioned you to focus without conciously thinking about it. The middle distance rationally should be easier than the long distance and your brain is aware of that, so it lets your concentration wander. Just take an extra second to focus on the smallest detail you can see on your target no matter what distance its at and it will tighten up your groups.

                          I’m with that!

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