paleoman wrote: My old tent is a Eureka Timberline that gave me many years of 3 season service. The nylon is starting to delaminate and it’s just getting old. Seeing I’ll use it in Oct/Nov mainly, are the double walled 4 season tents worth it for the potential extra insulation? This will be a more moveable setup vs a wall tent & stove deal..

Single wall 4 season like Bibler, much lighter to pack and bomb proof! Unless you don’t have to pack, then wall tent and stove are the way to go!!

I personally hate single wall backpacking tents because of the condensation…tried a couple of “good” ones and sold them after 2-3 uses.

Research gives the Eureka Assault Outfitter 4 really good bang for the buck.

The best in all my searching is Exped and Hilleberg for top end, expensive, mountaineering grade ,true 4 season, double wall tents. I bought a Exped Orion 3 and it is hands down superior to any other I have ever owned. Pick the size and weight for your intended use.

A wall tent and stove has it’s place as does the Kifaru/Seekoutside tepees with stoves….one tent won’t do it all.

Best of luck.

tent looked nice. I bought a ve24 from North Face in the 70’s bomb proof as they say. I used that tent for 25 yrs and the floor started to fall apart as you said I called them and they sent me a new tent . They sent a mountain 25 because they don’t make the 24 any more. Great tent- downside spendy and heavy but for trk camping great. Lots of companies make great tents good luck.