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Duncan wrote: OK, found a pair of Old School Converse wrestling shoes.

These things are quiet! For some they might not have enough support. I slipped a pair of foot beds in them and improved on that. Now to get some dirt on them to get rid of that shine. These will be good if the weather stays warm and dry into Oct. If not I’ll go to my LL Beans.

Hey Duncan the shoes seem fine, but if you hunt in those cammies you need to ease up on the UV brighteners in the wash.Seems like there shining.Just a tip not trying to be critical.