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I just finished shooting my 80’s something #65 Martin Hatfield. It still smokes a heavy cedar arrow with barely a whisper. I had a Howatt Hunter I carried for many years until it cracked on me at a 3-D shoot about 7 years ago. Since then, I have tried many different makes and models of recurve, custom and production, but was never really satisfied. None could ever compare with the Hunter. Which is why I have decided to order a new one.