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    • David Coulter
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        Hi Folks,
        I’m curious to know what the real world difference is between a broadhead with a straight edge, either single or double bevel, like a Zwickey, and one with a bit of a radius edge like the Eclipse. Can anyone explain this? Thank you for your help.

      • David Petersen
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          All I can say about it is that if you dig deep enough int the earlier Ashby studies, he determines that the ME, or overall mechanical efficiency (basically, everything that goes into a strong, deep-penetrating broadhead design) is highest for straight-edges blades. My own personal problem with convex edges is that after several sharpenings they tend to flatten out and I worry that the two edges will become slightly different in convexity which would affect weight/balance and could affect flight accuracy. That said, I really like the new Eclipse Werewolf and with a Rockwell hardness of 52-54, they’ll be a lot slower to grind down and change shape. dp

        • David Coulter
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            Very good. I’ve read a few places that straight edge has the edge, but it sure seems like the Eclipse is so well made that they must have looked into it.
            I’ll check out the Werewolf when they are available.
            Thank you very much for your answer.

          • Jason Wesbrock
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              I suspect this is one of those things that makes more of a difference on paper than in the real world. If the broadhead is shaped like a spoon, perhaps it may make a real difference. But a profile like an Ace Standard or zwickey Eskimo? Non-issue.

            • David Coulter
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                Looking forward to do my own testing, but September is oh so far away…

              • Stumpkiller
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                  If the mechanics is the same as a knife blade the radiused edge carries more strength at the nose, as the head’s width is carried forward a bit more. In practice most heads of the Zwickey style (Zwickey, Magnus, Stos, etc.) have a tripled nose which gives way more strength than the radius alone. Then you look at other successful designs like the Hill and Simmons that have a negative radius. There is likely a practical trade-off between penetration, cutting, ease of manufacture and plain ‘ol “this looks good”. There is no question that the Eclipse and Journeyman broadheads just plain look good.

                  I like the straight edges for the ease of setting the initial angles on a S-24 Tru-Angle jig with files. And thereafter it’s easy to “field sharpen” a used head with a file I keep on my quiver. You can also hone a straight edge without the need to rotate the head as it is drawn along the stone. I find the Stos to be “self-jigging” if I lay them on a dummy credit card (the banks send me these regularly).

                  I’ve got a modest collection of glue-on heads and it’s a good mental exercise to look through them and wonder “why was this designed so?”

                  Unfortunately, the answer in many cases seems to give a nod to the old bass lure philosophy: a lure that sells well is more often designed to catch fishermen, not fish.

                • David Coulter
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                    Thanks for your comments. This is interesting stuff.
                    I used to be pretty good at getting a very sharp edge on a knife, but got away from being so picky for a while. Now, with broadheads, I’m getting the knack again, with file, stone and strop. It takes a little patience, but it’s worth it. This is with a straight edge Eskimo. I think I’d need a bit more practice with a radius edge, but they sure do look nice.

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