How long is your arrow. and whats your point weight? FF string? 2018″s sounds a little more like it without anymore info. To stiff an arrow, maybe. Bare shaft one and find out.

If your bow was a cut past center recurve I’d think your arrows a pretty good match, but they may be too stiff for your longbow. How deep is your shelf cut? It makes a huge difference in spine requirements. Is your bow a high performance hybrid or something more like a Hill? What string material are you using?

Dennis,

I draw my Grizzly recurve to 60 lb @ 29 1/2″, and with a 145/150 gr. tip, I get a nice-flying arrow. My arrows are also 2117’s, but are cut at 31 1/2″. You may want to try a longer shaft or a heavier tip. Try one or the other, but not both as it will weaken your spine entirely too much. Good luck.

Michael.

Yep, bet they are a little stiff. You should call Dick and ask him about a FF string on your Bow. Would help overcome your spine problem with out buying new arrows. Dacron is great, quiet Bow, but FF will give you a little faster arrow and weaken your existing shafts. Drawbacks, well you’ll have to re-tune a little.

Dennis- What length and height of fletching- 3 or 4- and right or left hand? Three fletch 5″ right wing will give me the same feather ‘burn’ as you but the same in left wing will not. Have been trying some 4″ with a 90 degree 4 fletch right wing helical and so far no rubbing in my preliminary EFOC arrows. As for shaft rub and the ragged feather syndrome, check to make sure your shelf rest and sideplate do not have any ‘steps’ or edges to abrade- sometimes it helps to glue a matchstick or bamboo skewer piece under the rest right where the deepest of the grip is to provide a single contact for the shaft. Since you’re bareshaft tuned, perhaps some lower feathers will work- template and a sharp pair of scissors- and keep us informed of your results. Since our bows are basically the same once setup, all we’re left to tinker with are our chosen missiles- check out the Ashby Lethality studies and posts.
Good shooting and have fun! Bert(Go Canada!)

Dennis, if you arrows are hitting the side plate, they are too stiff. Paper tuning will likely confirm this. I’m a wood arrow guy. My Robertson shoots 27″ arrows with 160 points that match spine with draw weight. For yours, I would recommend 65-69 lb spine. Go up a notch if you want to shoot a heavier point.

Dennis, try the heavy field points on your 2117’s and I think you will see quite an improvement. I think you will be able to tune the 2020’s, too. 2219’s are about a 95 lb spine and will probably be too stiff for your Robertson. They might be a good match for the Grable, tho. Good luck and enjoy the journey!

Fletcher — while I appreciate all informed opinions on technical questions, it’s really great to have professionals in the mix as well. Thanks for joining us! snuffs:D

Thanks for the welcome, Snuffy. I’m honored to be here and happy to offer any insight and help that I can.

Enjoy the journey! Rick

You’re welcome, Dennis. Also, one thing that I was told at one point on arrow weight, is that the bare minimum you should shoot out of a recurve/longbow is 10 grains per pound of bow weight minus 10%. In other words, for your 60# bow, 600 grains minus 60 grains. I don’t remember who told me this, but if you follow that rule, you should be safe down to about 540 grains with your bow. Just something to ponder on, and something for somebody with more experience and know-how to chime in on. Good shooting and good hunting.

Michael.