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I’m new to this forum, and figured I would introduce myself, and then get into a question.
Started archery years ago with wheels, didn’t like it…. got itno trad about 4 years ago with recurve… graduated to a longbow…. then to R/D longbow and that is all I shoot now for the most part. Trad has got me hook line and sinker. I am hoping to move to Australia’s NT soon and will be hunting with no seasons, ain’t it grand?!
Now… I have a Martin ML-10 that I tried to sell a while back and didn’t find any takers it was too heavy. I have kind of decieded to keep it, but would like to make a few changes by adding phenolic and hardwood overlays to the riser and limb tips.
Is there anything that I should be concerned with?
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Welcome, Swamp Rat. I can’t help with your question, but others here will be able to. That’s a big move to OZ! Best luck, Dave
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Goodluck!! over there,am kickin the idea around myself.I have a freind who is into mining , has a few connections in NT also sounds good but ya what they say if it’s to good to be true? we’ll see, anyway shoot and then shoot some more!!
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The mining is huge up there and there is good money in it, but it can be consuming. We are headed to Katherine, and already have access to several properties for hogs and buff. I am the only bow hunter out of the group, but I am converting one of my mates over to it hopefully.
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To your questions – Adding overlays to the riser is no big deal as far as the integrity of the bow goes. Adding material to the tips could cause the bow to get more hand shock, and shoot more slowly.
Not to mention the headache involved in refinishing the bow.
If you told us why you want to add the overlay’s it might help us understand the problem you are trying to solve. If it is just for aesthetics, I would discourage you from doing it. Put some nasty Australian snake skins on it. You’ll be happier.
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Did the same thing on a late 90’s bear td hunter. It had large all wood tip overlays. I filed them down to about 1/16″ all the way along the tip. I then took a piece of 1/8″ black phonlic shaped it close to what the tip was before I glued it on. For the glue up I used super glue which works just fine. Once it is glued down you can then sand it down to make a smooth overlay.
Make sure you make the bottom of the phonlic as thin as possible before you glue on, this will give you a nice clean transition. I have shoot 10 strands of D97 off it for the last few years with no problems. Plus the bow feels so much better compared to the larger B50 strings.
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The bow is just glass over wood right now, but I am thinking on an 8th phenolic and a 16th hardwood.
It draws around 72# at my 32″ draw so I would be scared of a 10 starnd, but that may be off base.
This bow will not be my number one bow by any means, but with moving to Australia I know that there will be the chance at big buff and it is the heaviest that I have.
What would ya’ll refinish the bow with, and what glue would you use to keep the riser overlay on with?
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I believe there was an article in TBM a few years ago about adding overlay’s to the tip. I don’t remember the month/year of it, but maybe someone else will…
Most folks use some kind of super glue to affix the overlays, and I know it works well. But I prefer to use epoxy. I use the same smooth-on epoxy that I use to laminate the bows.
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Would you do something to the whole bow before you did the 5 coats and sprayed. I know there will be some prep to the back of the limbs to get everything to glue up, but will I need to steel wool the rest of the bow first or something along those lines?
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If the rest of the bow is in good shape and you don’t want to refinish it just tape it off. Tape the area around where you plan on putting on a finish. If you want to do the whole bow, use 120 then 220 grit sandpaper on the whole thing. It will take awhile to get the old finish off. I use120 grit on the area I’m going to glue a overlay on as a prep for the glue. Then wipe do with a good cleaner.
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Steve Graf wrote: I believe there was an article in TBM a few years ago about adding overlay’s to the tip. I don’t remember the month/year of it, but maybe someone else will…
Steve, I’m not finding anything in the index. If you think of the title or the author that might help.
We have a web article How to Make Linen Phenolic but it doesn’t cover tip overlays. I’m happy to keep searching if anyone has ideas what the article is called or when it was published.
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Steve, I’m not finding anything in the index. If you think of the title or the author that might help.
I don’t remember the author or title. I’ll dig through my stack and see if I can find it.
The article was about repairing limb tips on an old bow. It started out with pictures of the old tip overlays lifting off, then proceeded through the repair and then showed pictures of the new tip overlays.
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That’s Martin ML-10? Would that be 60# at 28inches? I wanted to buy one athe last Kalamzoo expo and I went to my car and by the time I got back the bow was gone. Still interested in sellint it? I have a Martin ML-14 70# at 28 inches and of all the bows I have that is my favorite. Just checking.If you want to keep it, I probably would too.
Dan
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I would still be willing to part with it. It is a 60# @ 28″ I have a long draw and it gets up above my comfort zone other wise I would keep it. I like it, but I have gotten into R/D bows fairly heavy. This bow is actually what got me away from recurve and into longbows. So much so that I gave away my Hoyt GM II to a friend in Australia who is wanting to start into trad.
I bought it off of stickbow a few years back from a guy in FL who was moving to Montana. He had gotten into self bows and was getting rid of all his others before the move.
I have used it mainly to strengthen with for the past couple of years. It has a newer string built (as in few shots)by Jeffrey Archery.
Just shoot me a PM and I will give you my contact details then we can go from there.
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