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I’ve been mulling this over for some time and have come to the conclusion I’m looking into something I know nothing about.
I’ve seen prices from a couple hundred to several thousand.
The high end, high dollar recorders are out of my wallet range.
In short, I’d say something in the $350- $500 range is my working area.
The main thing I’m looking for is one that I can use in my arrow testing that will allow me to record and play back in a slower frame count.
If I understand it right either the slo-mo or golf mod allows you to record and view it in a fashion so that you can see, something like the arrow in flight rather than just a quick blip.
I figured this out after reading where one make stated that it was great for recording you golf swing, then playing it back slow enough to see any flaws.
Any one have a suggestion?
I’ve read the info decription on several make and models and it’s like I’m trying to understand those some assembly required swingset plans without pictures….
Troy
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Troy, you will have to go to the competing site to get technical information like this.You know the one that is sometimes referred to the popular mechanics site LOL
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Troy,
Check out the Casio Elixim. Mine is the EX-FC-100 but I think there is a newer version. It is a pocket camera (not a camcorder) but has video capability to shoot up to 1000 frames per second. This camera is a staple in most archery coach’s equipment bag. Not real expensive but with the selectable video frame rates very versatile. When you get to 1000 FPS the picture gets a little small and grainy but you can still see what is going on. You also need very good light at this speed (no florescent) bright sunlight is best. Just a thought.
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Thanks for the info Moebow. Been doing alot of reserch and one thing I really want in my camcorder or camera is what they call golf mod. This takes something like 30 frames per second and allows you to see each movement in encroments.
Troy
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30 fps (actualy 29.97) is standard frame rate for many cameras. You will be able to find one that will shoot 24,30, and 60fps with good quality and at a reasonable price. Anything above 60 and the quality is going to drop sharply.
If you shoot at 60 fps with a high shutter speed, you should be able to stop motion effectivly.
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Clay Hayes wrote: 30 fps (actualy 29.97) is standard frame rate for many cameras. You will be able to find one that will shoot 24,30, and 60fps with good quality and at a reasonable price. Anything above 60 and the quality is going to drop sharply.
If you shoot at 60 fps with a high shutter speed, you should be able to stop motion effectivly.
Clay,
I can see I still have alot to learn.
Thanks,
Troy
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EasyEd wrote: Troy,
Take a look at the GoPro HD camera.
(http://gopro.com/hd-hero2-cameras/)
Ed
Ed,
Not sure this one will do what I want. The reviews sound good, but at 10fps it looks to be to slow.
Troy
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Troy, I guess I will give you my two cents. My expertise in cameras is very limited. Even operating one sometime can be a challenge for me. Dr Ashby can vouch for that as I tried to take his picture at the Kalamazoo expo.:D
I do have video camera and would suggest that there are a couple of things to keep in mind when purchasing one. Like you have discussed you main objective is for your arrow work and shooting. If you plan also to use it on hunting trips consider this also.
1. My camera is compact digital type but the view finder is limited to the LED window. It is extremely hard to follow action in the window. I wish my camera also had a look through view finder.
2 Consider the media on which the filming is being stored on the camera. My particular camera stores the picture on an internal hard disk and has hours of film storage. A definite plus when out in the bush. This is assuming you start with an empty hard disk
A friend has the exact same camera but the memory is small disks. He had a great filming shot of an elk and ran out of storage in the middle of the episode He probably could have avoided this but by checking the storage but he was not even thinking about doing any filming it just happened. You know the old saying “STUFF HAPPENS”.:oops::D
A disadvantage of the external storage like my friends camera when the disks fill up they have to be replaced .You have to have spares with you and then you have to store the full disk in you pack if hunting .
3.The lens is another consideration if you are going to have dual use .It would be nice to have a zoom lens when hunting,
I am sure one will never find the perfect camera. Personally I am just trying to find one I can operate.:D
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Joe,
Hahahaha!!!!
Like you I know I could load a camera up with all types of options, but being able to understand them and use them is another question.
The main reason for wanting a camcorder is to see the slomo or frame by frame of the arrows/shafts paradox out of the bow as well as well as what the shaft/arrow is doing when it hit the target.
Using it for hunting will be a benefit, but not something I will do that much of.
I will also use it for the “Hero” sceens (if they happen) as well as recording what the broadhead has done when I do the autopsie/ dismemberment for transport out of the woods.
I’m still looking into what camera will work best. Then I’ll head out to the stores to see them in action. I figure if the store want allow me to see how they work just in the store, I’ll go some place else. I may have to go to a real camera shop to get this instead of one of the big box stores unless the big stores have a return policy.
Troy
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Troy Breeding wrote: Joe,
The main reason for wanting a camcorder is to see the slomo or frame by frame of the arrows/shafts paradox out of the bow as well as well as what the shaft/arrow is doing when it hit the target.
Troy
Unfortunately, you’re just not going get even remotely decent footage of that at 30 or even 60 frames per second. Footage like the paradox clip you posted from Youtube is generally shot on high speed cameras with frame rates in the thousands. Even a slow arrow at 150 fps travels half the distance of a football field by the time most consumer camcorders captures 30 frames.
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