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Hey Folks,
Another question in the tuning department. I have my arrows flying pretty well. I did another bare shaft the other day to check it again after some time and it really flew right on.
I’m seeing some cork screwing or maybe a bit of tail wagging in my shots. Sometimes I don’t see it, sometimes I do. It’s not crazy, as the nock would easily fit inside a coffee cup, with an occasional exception. I’m wondering what is the cause of this. Release? Tuning? I see it with field points and judos. I’m hitting as well as ever, but seeing that little swirl.
I have my fletch down to 3″ A&A style, FOC at 26%, Beaman ICS Bowhunter 400, 50 gr insert, 225 grain points, plus a 5 gr brass washer to equal the weight of my Grizzly broadheads. Total arrow weight is about 555 gr. My bow is a 62″ Leon Steward Slammer Special 46# @28.
Thanks in advance!
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Without seeing the shaft fly all I can say is it could be one or several problems.
Arrow nock too tight on string
Bad release
Improper tuning
Nocking point on string in wrong place
These are just a few things that come to mind.
However, if it’s not doing it all the time I would say improper tuning and bad release are most likely the top two.
Troy
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I’ve noticed over the year that folks are often more conscientious of their shooting while tuning a bow, which is to say they pay special attention to shoot every shot the same as the last. That’s a good thing. But when they’re just shooting to shoot, the highs and lows of their form come into play. If you’re only seeing the wobble sometimes that’s either because your eyes don’t pick it up all the time (which again is totally normal) or something inconsistent in your shot is causing it from time to time (normal there too).
That’s why I like to build my hunting arrows to not only tune properly, but maintain their stability even if I get off the string a little rough or torque the bow a hair. Field points and Judos don’t steer arrows, so they will still impact with a high degree of consistency regardless of minor inconsistencies in flight quality. Broadheads are another matter entirely.
Here’s another thing to consider: is the bad flight associated with one of more particular arrows, or does it happen with all of them from time to time? A friend of mine bought a couple dozen high end carbon shafts a few years ago and couldn’t get them to tune consistently. He’s a heck of a good shot (4th at the IBO trad world and 5th at the regular IBO world last year). After a bit of head scratching we put them on my spine tester and the problem became clear: they weren’t even close to consistent.
I’ve shot Bemans since the days of the pultruded Hunter and Diva shafts (1992 if I recall correctly), their ICS shafts since 2001, and I’ve never had spine inconsistency issues with them. But it’s still something worth ruling out. You may want to try numbering your arrows and shooting them several times each just to be sure the shafts themselves aren’t a problem.
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dwc,
I was having a bear of a time tuning my arrows until I did two things. I started to paper tune and I also started to video record my shooting. I couldn’t watch the arrow that closely so paper tuning helped me figure out what it was doing in the air. Once I got the spine correct I was getting a nock high indicator about an inch. When nock fit and string nock adjustments failed I got out the camera. I shoot split finger and my top finger was causing the issue. It was to deep into the string and when I adjusted it bingo. the knock high was gone. I am a novice but this is how I got to the base of my issues. Good luck and the last time I had cork screwing arrows the spine was off as I recall.
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Thanks Guys. Good things to work on. I have been working on form, mainly the rotational draw via Moebow’s video I think. It definitely has helped tighten up my groups, but maybe that also has caused a little increase in draw length. I do try to use a fairly deep hook on my string hand, but I know that sometimes I find my grip on the string lengthening, too.
Funny thing is when I bareshafted the other day, it was flying right in there, straight as an …
Thanks for your input. dwcphoto
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I did some shots with a variety of 5 gr brass washer that suggested my arrows are too limber. I only trimmed about a 1/16 of an inch and it seemed to straighten them out a bit. More shooting to do, of course.
Thanks, dwc
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I second what J said. And I know this is flying in the face of current trends, but I still like 5 inch feathers. If you do pluck the string, or slap your arm, or whatever during an important shot, the feathers will at least get your arrow going straight again.
Nothing worse than hitting a deer with an arrow that is wobbling…
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