I think “actions speak louder than words” applies really well here. If they do not hunt, then they are not taking animals out of season. So it’s really up to you to do the right thing. Just keep doing it and they will see what the difference between hunters and poachers is. Then, when the anti’s try to paint us all with a broad brush, they will tell their friends “that’s just not the way true hunters are”. Be well.

Alex

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lyagooshka wrote: I think “actions speak louder than words” applies really well here. If they do not hunt, then they are not taking animals out of season. So it’s really up to you to do the right thing. Just keep doing it and they will see what the difference between hunters and poachers is. Then, when the anti’s try to paint us all with a broad brush, they will tell their friends “that’s just not the way true hunters are”. Be well.

Alex

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Couldn’t agree more Alex….in this case it’s all about how we, the hunters, conduct ourselves among those who do not know / not informed / (don’t care??). It’s incumbent on us to be the standard bearers and hopefully our actions will educate those that aren’t informed. The killer is for all the good we do, it only takes one dumb SOB to undo a lot of goodwill 👿

We need to do everything we can to counteract these idiots every chance we get….>>>–>

I like the lead by example, you might want to try and find some hunting literature that explains the difference between poaching and hunting to share with them.

Strictly speaking I think hunting out of season would be illegal but as you have permission would not be poaching.

Good luck with your conversion of the non hunters, as folks that rarely eat meat they may well enjoy some venison with all the benefits over farmed meats.

Just reread your post and you highlight that they are non-hunters and not anti-hunting (otherwise you would not have got permission, bit slow today) the world over these are the folks we need to be educating, does anyone have literature aimed specifically at this group?

Mark.

I have several clients that feel the same way as the people you describe, Not being big meat eaters they seem to think that the deer are competition. I have even helped build fences around gardens to keep the deer out.

I don’t think that I can say it any better than the above posts, that actions speak louder than words.

Good luck

Bill

They sound like some folks I used have permission from. They just wanted the deer gone and did not care how many I killed. I told them I would not shoot over the limit allowed. I hunted it one season and I was not successful enough to suit them so we parted ways. Hope that does not happen to you.

If deer are eating their crops or other resources does CA have depredation permitting to thin a deer herd? Can the landowner get permits to thin the herd legally? If so, it could afford you more shot opportunities on that property and maybe more meat in the freezer.

Years ago I met a lady land-owner, who gave me permission to deer hunt. She encouraged me to come and kill deer at night, because they were in her garden. She DID NOT have any kind of legal status to allow this, but she really tried to talk me into night shooting. Later, I asked about shooting some doves on her place, and she got all excited, and said “No, I don’t allow any dove shooting. Doves are mentioned in the Bible!” This was (is) fairly common across much of the South.

On opening day of deer season, it became apparent that she stopped people on the road to give them hunting permission.Her yard looked like a parking lot. We stayed til daylight, ducking centerfire rifle shots that folks were throwing at flying duck, then low crawled to the vehicle and got out of there. Going down the road, one of our crew remembered a friend who had property, so we stopped by, got permission, and have been hunting there since 1972. We’ve become great friends with the family.