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    • DK
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        Howdy all,

        I have a 32.25″ draw and shoot a sixty pound bow with 300 spine shafts . I want to sell my Matlock predator x and get a 50# bow. The real problem is that if i drop below a 340 spine shaft it will be to short for me. 400’s are to short. I know there are a lot of factors but do you guys think i can make a 340 work? The only tuning I get to do is with string material, brace height and point weight.

        Thanks DK

      • Charles Ek
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          There is a possible beneficial aspect of that long arrow length. There’s some support for the notion it might allow use of shafts that would appear to be mismatched in spine. I have seen this myself and this article supports it as well: http://www.alaskabowhunting.com/Matching-Arrows-W16.aspx

          I know nothing about building non-wooden arrows, so you’ll know better what shaft options are available to you. But I think it’s worth experimenting while ignoring the charts or spine calculator.

        • Jason Wesbrock
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            DK,

            Welcome to the long draw club. 🙂

            I have a 32″ draw length and shoot 340s with 125-grain tips out of 56# bows. If you’re going down to 50# you should still be fine. You’ll likely end up with a tip somewhere in the 145 to 200-grain range. Select a lightweight shaft like the Victory HV series and you’ll probably end around 10 gpp by the time you’re done.

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            Eidsvolling,

            As someone who shoots full length shafts, trust me on this. Spine matters. 🙂

          • DK
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              Thanks for the response guys! I will check out the link when I get a little time. Jwesbrock. Why a lighter shaft. I have been shooting and hunting for only about four years and still don’t understand gpp? I am also not that smart. Thanks again.

            • Jason Wesbrock
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                I only suggested a lighter shaft because you’ll likely have to use a somewhat heavy tip to get them tuned right. My full length Beman ICS Bohunters with 125-grain tips run around 485 grains. That’s a normal weight shaft. To get those tuned right for 50# @ 32.5″ you’ll probably end up over 10gpp — not a bad thing if you’re used to a slow trajectory.

              • DK
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                  Really appreciate your help. I don’t know anyone with this long of a draw. It’s a pain. But the arrows fly fast.

                • Stephen Graf
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                    DK wrote: … The only tuning I get to do is with string material, brace height and point weight.

                    Thanks DK

                    You can add silencers to your list of tuning tools. Moving the silencers around has a significant affect on bare shaft tuning carbon arrows. If the bare shaft arrow shows:

                    weak – Move silencers towards nock set.

                    Stiff – Move silencers towards limb tips.

                  • DK
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                      Good call Steve,

                      Do you know the name of the silencers that are made of wool or felt maybe that you can slide up and down in the string without untwisting the string. I saw them a while ago and cant remember the name.

                      Thanks,

                      DK

                    • Stephen Graf
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                        This might be what you are talking about:

                        http://www.twotracksbow.com/store/index.php?dispatch=categories.view&category_id=181

                        That seems steep to me for something you can make yourself, if you have the materials.

                        I have no trouble (well ok, maybe every now and then they snag a bit) with plain old wool yarn silencers.

                      • DK
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                          Steve,

                          Those are what I was talking about, thank you. They do seem a little steep. I use beaver now and its kind of a pain to untwist them and move them around during the tuning process. I tried the rubber string leaches but they didn’t silence my bow enough. Hopefully these will speed up my string and dampen it enough. I will try them and see.

                          Thanks again,

                          Doug K

                        • wojo14
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                            Ever try aluminum arrows? Lots of options there. I like aluminum.

                            Also, easton FMJ dangerous game come in a heavy spine.

                          • David Coulter
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                              I bought a set of String Scallops a few years ago. I’ve only used one pair and they are holding up fine. They are easy to move and they do work well. I always thought Cat Whiskers worked well, too, and they are pretty cheap. There are cheaper ways, but I won’t say it was a waste of money to by the Scallops. I’d like to get one of their hats, too, but that’s out my price range. dwc

                            • wojo14
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                                Who’s hat??

                              • David Coulter
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                                  Two Tracks makes a nice looking, warm looking wool hat. Probably last a lifetime, too, but too steep for me right now. Maybe Santa will keep that in mind for next year. dwc

                                • DK
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                                    Good call Wojo! i will check out aluminum.

                                    I like the two tracks hat as well.

                                    DK

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