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  • David CoulterDavid Coulter
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    Hi Folks,

    I read in one of Steve’s posts about tuning the arrow and it struck home for me.  I’m pretty happy with the way my arrows are shooting. I’m getting tighter and tighter groups and the arrows are going straight into the bale and look very smooth and straight when I see them go into a deer. All good, right?

    When I back up to 30 yards or so and shoot, I see my arrows do a little wiggle, side to side, then straighten out and fly into the target. I suppose it’s not a lot, but enough that I can see it.  I’m using about 28% FOC, by the way.  I’m wondering if the wiggle is coming from a difference in form, maybe release, when I’m shooting longer distances, or if the arrows are not truly tuned the way the should be. Again, at hunting ranges, all good. Perhaps I’m operating on the fringe of tuned and could be making some adjustment to improve.

    Any ideas? Thank you, david

  • Stephen Graf
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    Hay David, what post would that be?

    My guess is that what you are learning to see is the arrow recover from paradox.  Every arrow must experience bending around the bow.  How they recover is what we describe as tuning.

    I believe you are using carbon arrows.  If so, shooting a few bare shafts into your bale at 20 yards will tell the story.  If they go in relatively straight, with maybe just a hint of nock left, then you are good to go.

    On using high FOC arrows – one thing I learned about high FOC carbon arrows is that they recover from paradox quickly no matter how mis-spined they are.  The problem is that they don’t go where they are pointed so much.  So it’s doubly important to bare shaft carbon with a high FOC setup.

    All that said, is the wiggle up-and-down or side-to-side?

  • David CoulterDavid Coulter
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    Post count: 1995

    Good morning Steve,

    I’m seeing a little side to side and sometime it seems like they cork screw just a bit. I did bareshaft and occasionally shoot a bare shaft just for fun. I also did a paper test last year and got beautiful results. When I shot yesterday I watched closely and did see some wiggle even in 20 and under. They are shooting right on the mark when I do my part. I suppose I should leave well enough along. I’m certainly not going to spend much time tuning with five days of the season left on the calendar! dwc

  • R2R2
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    Morning you two.  I feel ornery this AM…

     

    It’s winter so did you check your anti-wiggle?

  • Stephen Graf
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    David,

    Not really knowing what’s going on it’s hard to say.  But you might try raising the nocking point a bit…

    I’ve noticed that temperature  plays a big role too.  If you wait till a warm day, I bet your arrows fly perfectly…

    Ralph,

    I used to have wiggle, but it got rusted up 😜    These emoji’s suck.

  • R2R2
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    When you live in the windiest city in the US, according to the Weather Bureau, you get waggles along with wiggles.

    Steve, lost perhaps but never forgotten.  Always on the wish list.

  • David CoulterDavid Coulter
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    Post count: 1995

    I try to keep my personal wiggles. It’s just that I get jealous when the arrows wiggle more than me…

  • Sam Dunham
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    By thirty your arrow should be flying well if properly spined because the initial flight closer to the Bow is usually the worst.

    Do the back up in 10 yd increments on a centerline of tape on your target and see if the arrow is right or left of the centerline the further you move back,

  • peter Vermouthpeter Vermouth
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    Wiggles, hell!!! The problem is the jiggles. Working in a office for 3 years, and find I have to actually exercise for the first time in my life. There is 10# hanging over my belt (they are calling it a muffin top) that I have to get rid of.

    Think you can get thru the day without hurting yourself?

    Grumpy

  • Stephen Graf
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    Grumpy,

    What’s going on?  Hurt yourself lately?

  • David CoulterDavid Coulter
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    Post count: 1995

    Hi Guys, been off the radar for a bit. Something in the technology that has kept me from signing on. Still got my wiggles. It might be release related. It’s better when I push my elbow back for back tension, a la Clay Hayes video. Doesn’t keep me from having fun! Thanks for all the suggestions.

    Grumpy, hows the muffin business?  I got to keep after it more than I ever have. I’m lucky to have a great cook in the house who is also very conscious of our diets. Had a great salad the other days with little bits of grill venison tenderloin. Mmmm. dwc

  • peter Vermouthpeter Vermouth
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    UPDATE:  I lost the 10 lbs, and not looking for it.  Stick to high protein/high fiber diet, and only eat when you are hungry.

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